Proving Inequality: Solving Im(z) and Re(z) with Triangle Inequality

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The discussion focuses on proving the inequality involving the sine function of a complex variable, specifically sin(z), where z = x + iy. The participants emphasize the application of the triangle inequality and the reverse triangle inequality to establish bounds for |sin(z)|. Key steps include proving that |sin(z)| ≤ (ey + e-y)/2 and |sin(z)| ≥ (e|y| + e-|y|)/2. The discussion highlights the necessity of showing all steps in proofs for clarity and validation.

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Hello
I need to prove this inequality:
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where y=im(z) ,x=Re(z).

I used the triangle inequality but I got stuck.
Can someone show me how to do it? specially the left side of the inequality.
thanks
 
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Show what you have tried, and where you got stuck.

That way it will be easier for use to give the appropriate help.
 
Don't forget about the reverse triangle inequality: |x - y| >= ||x| - |y||
 
It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} , then prove that \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}.

Also, use \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} .
 
sir_manning said:
It will be easier to break this into two problems. First prove that \left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} , then prove that \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}.

Also, use \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} .

That's what i did. can you please look at my answer? isn't it correct?
thank you.
 
Sorry, I see that you did write \left| sin z \right| = \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i}. However, I don't understand how you came up with your answer: where did the absolute value signs in \left| \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2} \right| emerge from? You can't just insert them. And how did you re-arrange the inequality? Was there a typo in your original statement of the problem? In any case, your answer doesn't prove the inequality, because I cannot see its validity just by looking at it. With these types of problems, you really need to break it down to something like -e^{-y} \leq e^{-y} \; \Rightarrow \; -1 \leq 1, which we can all agree is true. Also, in proofs you *need* to show your steps, and you always should here anyways so we can help you out.

Alright, let's try doing this one part at a time. First, prove that:

\left| sin z \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}, or

\left| \frac{e^{i(x+iy)} - e^{-i(x+iy)}}{2i} \right| \leq \frac{e^{y} + e^{-y}}{2}. Cancel the 2's, multiply by i/i and rearrange exponentials on the left,

\left| -i e^{ix} e^{-y} + i e^{-ix} e^y \right| \leq e^{y} + e^{-y} ...Now try applying the triangle inequality to this. After proving this, a similar approach is used for \left| sin z \right| \geq \frac{e^{\left| y \right|} + e^{- \left| y \right|}}{2}
 
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