Proving monotonicity of a ratio of two sums

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The discussion centers on proving the monotonicity of the ratio of two sums of functions, specifically in the form \(\frac{f_1(x)+f_2(x)+...+f_n(x)}{g_1(x)+g_2(x)+...+g_n(x)}\). It is established that while each individual ratio \(\frac{f_i(x)}{g_i(x)}\) is monotonically increasing, this condition alone does not guarantee that the overall ratio of the sums is also increasing. Participants suggest using mathematical induction as a potential method to explore this proof further.

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Hi everyone. In a proof I'm working on, I have a ratio of two sums of functions in the following form:

\frac{f_1(x)+f_2(x)+...f_n(x)}{g_1(x)+g_2(x)+...+g_n(x)}

I want to prove this ratio is monotonically increasing in x. All of the functions f_i(x) and g_i(x) are positive and also (importantly) I know that for all i=1,2,...,n, the ratio f_i(x)/g_i(x) is monotonically increasing in x, i.e. f_1(x)/g_1(x) is increasing in x, f_2(x)/g_2(x) is increasing in x, etc.

Is there a simple way to prove this without requiring further information about these functions? I've been stuck on it for a while. Does it have to be true that the ratio of the sums is increasing? If anyone can suggest a straightforward approach (or tell me if it's not possible without further information) I'd be very grateful, thanks!
 
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raphile said:
Hi everyone. In a proof I'm working on, I have a ratio of two sums of functions in the following form:

\frac{f_1(x)+f_2(x)+...f_n(x)}{g_1(x)+g_2(x)+...+g_n(x)}

I want to prove this ratio is monotonically increasing in x. All of the functions f_i(x) and g_i(x) are positive and also (importantly) I know that for all i=1,2,...,n, the ratio f_i(x)/g_i(x) is monotonically increasing in x, i.e. f_1(x)/g_1(x) is increasing in x, f_2(x)/g_2(x) is increasing in x, etc.

Is there a simple way to prove this without requiring further information about these functions? I've been stuck on it for a while. Does it have to be true that the ratio of the sums is increasing? If anyone can suggest a straightforward approach (or tell me if it's not possible without further information) I'd be very grateful, thanks!

Have you tried induction? It is usually the first thing I think of when solving problems like this.

BiP
 
Is it even true?
Consider f1(x) = x +x^2, g1(x) = 10x, f2(x) = 10+x^2, g2(x) = 1.
When x v small, (f1+f2)/(g1+g2) ~ 10. At x = 1, ratio is 13/11.
 
Many thanks for the help. Sorry for the late reply - I'm still working on the problem and trying things out.

At least now I'm convinced that the condition that f_i(x)/g_i(x) is monotonically increasing for all i=1,2,...,n is not sufficient for the overall ratio to be increasing, which I wasn't sure about before. I'm trying some things based on induction which rely on some other properties of these functions.
 

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