Proving Parallelism of Vectors in 3-Space: Help with a Proof

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The discussion revolves around proving the parallelism of two vectors in 3-space, specifically examining the relationship between the vectors \(\vec{V_1}\) and \(\vec{V_2}\) and their modified forms \(\vec{V^{'}}_1\) and \(\vec{V^{'}}_2\). Participants explore the implications of the condition that \(\vec{V_1} - \vec{V^{'}}_1\) is parallel to \(\vec{V_2} - \vec{V^{'}}_2\) and seek to establish a proof for the original vectors being parallel.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if \(\vec{V_1} - \vec{V^{'}}_1\) is parallel to \(\vec{V_2} - \vec{V^{'}}_2\), then it should imply that \(\vec{V_1}\) is parallel to \(\vec{V_2}\), but they are unsure how to prove this.
  • Another participant questions the definition of parallel vectors and suggests that a scalar \(t\) exists such that \(\vec{A} = t\vec{B}\) for parallel vectors.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of vector subtraction, with one participant providing their interpretation of \(\vec{V_1} - \vec{V^{'}}_1\).
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether the problem fits within the scope of calculus, linking it to a problem from Apostol's Calculus.
  • Another participant encourages focusing on the components of the vectors to derive a scalar relationship that could lead to proving the parallelism of \(\vec{V_1}\) and \(\vec{V_2}\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof or the implications of the initial condition regarding vector parallelism. There are differing interpretations of vector subtraction and the definitions of parallel vectors.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the properties of vectors and the definitions used in the discussion may not be explicitly stated, leading to potential misunderstandings. The relationship between the modified vectors and the original vectors remains unresolved.

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If we have two nonzero vectors in 3-space [itex]\vec{V_1}=a_1\vec{i}+b_1\vec{j}+c_1\vec{k}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{V_2}=a_2\vec{i}+b_2\vec{j}+c_2\vec{k}[/itex], define [itex]\vec{V^'_1}=a^2_1\vec{i}+b^2_1\vec{j}+c^2_1\vec{k}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{V^'_2}=a^2_2\vec{i}+b^2_2\vec{j}+c^2_2\vec{k}[/itex]. How can we prove that if [itex]\vec{V_1}-\vec{V^'_1}[/itex] is parallel to [itex]\vec{V_2}-\vec{V^'_2}[/itex], then [itex]\vec{V_1}[/itex] is parallel to [itex]\vec{V_2}[/itex]?

Any ideas? I've been thinking about this for a while and it's bugging me because I think it should be true but I can't figure out how to prove it.
 
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Also I don't know if this problem counts as "calculus" per se. It arised when doing a problem in Apostol's Calculus that I showed to be logically equivalent to the statement I posted above (at least I think so... let's hope I didn't make a mistake :-p) so I decided this forum was as good as any.
 
Well to start, if you know that two vectors are parallel, what does that mean? In your book do you have something that says "Two vectors are parallel if..."

Secondly what exactly is the vector [itex]\vec{V_1}-\vec{V^'_1}[/itex]?
 
Two vectors [itex]\vec{A}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{B}[/itex] are parallel if there is a scalar [itex]t[/itex] such that [itex]\vec{A}=t\vec{B}[/itex]. Also I wasn't aware there was more than one way to define subtraction of vectors but here is the one I am using: [itex]\vec{V_1} - \vec{V^'_1}=(a1-a^2_1)\vec{i} + (b1-b^2_1)\vec{j} + (c1-c^2_1)\vec{k}[/itex]
 
Also I'm screwing up the latex somehow. There is supposed to be an arrow over [itex]V^'_1[/itex] and [itex]V^'_2[/itex]. I don't know how to fix it :-/
 
Ok, so based on your definition, if [itex]\vec{V_1}-\vec{V^'_1}[/itex] is parallel to [itex]\vec{V_2}-\vec{V^'_2}[/itex] then there is some scalar [tex]t[/tex] such that [itex]\vec{V_1}-\vec{V^'_1} = t (\vec{V_2}-\vec{V^'_2})[/itex] ...

Can you take it from here? Think about the components of the vectors, can you get them to say that there is some scalar such that [itex]\vec{V_1} = t\vec{V_2}[/itex]
 

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