Proving Pascal's Formula for Combinations: Using Pascal's Triangle and Formula

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The discussion revolves around proving Pascal's formula for combinations, specifically showing that the sum of combinations from (k) to (n) equals (n+1). Participants reference Pascal's triangle and the concept of mathematical induction as potential tools for the proof.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the notation used in the problem, particularly the meaning of (k) and how it relates to combinations. There are suggestions to use Pascal's triangle and induction as methods for proving the statement. Some participants express uncertainty about the problem's formulation and whether it has been copied correctly.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on using induction and have pointed out the need for a clear understanding of the notation involved. There is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

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Participants note that the values of n and k are positive integers, and there is some confusion regarding the correct formulation of the problem statement. The discussion includes a suggestion to verify the problem's accuracy before proceeding with the proof.

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Prove "Pascals formula"

Homework Statement


Show that (k)+(k+1)+...+(n) = (n+1) it's supposed to be combinations
(k) (k ) (k) (k+1)

That's the question in my math book. I guess you need to use Pascals triangle and Pascals formula but unfortionately I don't know how to implement them here.
 
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please define what are these notations
what is the meaning of (k) ?
 
lalbatros, he means show that:

{{k}\choose{k}} + {{k+1}\choose{k}} + \dots + {{n}\choose{k}} = {{n+1}\choose{k+1}}

The second line of (k)'s and the (k+1) is supposed to line up underneath the stuff on the previous line. I'm about to hit the space bar 10 times. I just hit it 10 times, I see a big gap between "times." and "I just" but when I post this message, you'll only see one space.

Elruso, use Pascal's triangle on the right side of your equation together with induction.
 
Well, n=1,2,3,4... and k=1,2,3,4...
 
Elruso said:
Well, n=1,2,3,4... and k=1,2,3,4...
I don't know what your point is. Do induction on n. The base case is the trivial fact that {{k}\choose{k}} = {{k+1}\choose{k+1}}.
 
Elruso said:

Homework Statement


Show that (k)+(k+1)+...+(n) = (n+1) it's supposed to be combinations
(k) (k ) (k) (k+1)

That's the question in my math book. I guess you need to use Pascals triangle and Pascals formula but unfortionately I don't know how to implement them here.

Are you sure the problem is copied correctly? I think I should have read:
\left( \begin{array}{c} k \\ k \end{array} \right) + \left( \begin{array}{c} k + 1 \\ k \end{array} \right) + \left( \begin{array}{c} k + 2 \\ k \end{array} \right) + ... + \left( \begin{array}{c} k + n \\ k \end{array} \right) = \left( \begin{array}{c} k + n + 1 \\ k + 1 \end{array} \right)

As AKG's pointed out, you need a Proof By Induction. Proof By Induction requires 3 steps, i.e:
Step 1: Start with n = 0, or 1, or 2, or whatever according to what the problem asks you to do (in this case, you should choose n = 0), to see if it's correct.
Step 2: Assume the statement is true for k = n.
Step 3: prove that if it holds true for k = n, then it would also hold true for k = n + 1.

Can you go from her? :)
 

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