Proving PQ, PR, T, S, R and Q are Concyclic

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The discussion centers on proving that points T, S, R, and Q are concyclic given that OT and OS are perpendicular to chords PQ and PR, respectively, with OT equal to OS. The original proof attempted to establish congruencies and parallel lines but was deemed unnecessarily complicated and flawed due to assumptions about point O's position. A more straightforward approach involves recognizing the symmetry in the configuration and using congruent triangles to show that the perpendicular bisectors of segments RS, RQ, and QT intersect at a common point, which serves as the circle's center. The use of symmetry simplifies the proof significantly, allowing for a clearer demonstration of the concyclic nature of the points. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the importance of clarity and efficiency in geometric proofs.
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I finished this proof that took about a whole page and I was just wondering if there were an easier way of doing things that would take less work. here's the problem.
PQ and PR are two chords of a circle with centre O. OT is perpendicular to PQ and OS is perpendicular to PR. IF OT = OS prove that T,S,R and Q are concyclic.
I am going to go through my steps without proof cause it would take forever. I just want to get an idea if I am doing it the easiest way.

It would probably help if you drew this out.

First I proved QT = RS
then QTO is congruent to RSO
Then you can prove TS is parallel to QR
from there i can conclude that <QSR = <QTR
from there can I conlude that they are concyclic by equal angles in a segment?

Edit: I realized that I didn't need to prove parallel lines. It really doesn't help the question in any way.
 
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Ya, as I look at it, I don't think this proof works. I think I assumed O was on QR which it doesn't have to be. Now I really need help !
 
Physics is Phun said:
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PQ and PR are two chords of a circle with centre O. OT is perpendicular to PQ and OS is perpendicular to PR. IF OT = OS prove that T,S,R and Q are concyclic.

T and S are not defined.
If you don't tell a little bit more about them, is going to be impossible to prove anything.
 
I suppose that T lies on PQ and S lies on PR
PS=SR
PT=TQ
This two equalities make the situation simple

At first we may notice that
If AB is a chord of a circle with centre O then the triangle OAB is an isoskeles, so the perpendicular from O to AB is at once
-perpendicular bisector of AB
-angle bisector of AOB
-altitude

The right triangles OPS,OPT are congruent (OS=OT, OP common)
So we get PS=PT
Then, it's easy to prove that the four triangles OPS,ORS,OPT,OQT are congruent
(actually there is a symmetry trough OP)


The way I use is, to prove that all perpendicular bisectors of RS,RQ,QT intersect each other at the point K.
Then KR=KS,KR=KQ,KQ=KT (so, the point K is the center of the circle we are looking for)


You can easy show that the perpendicular bisector on RQ is the line OP (using congruent triangles)

About the two other,
Take the midpoint A of RS, and respectively the midpoint B of TQ

bring the perpendicular bisector of RS, it intersects OP at the point K (theydo intersect since AK is parallel to SO and SO intersects PR)

You have the right triangle AKP,

from K bring the perpendicular line to PQ, which intersects PQ at the point B
Now, you have another right triangle BKP
But their angles BPK and APK are equal => Triangles AKP,BKP are similar
If you use that KP is common, you get that AKP and BKP triangles are congruent

So KA=KB
and you can use it to prove KR=KS=KT=KQ



I hope that helps

You can simplify further the proof if you use symmetry
Everything over OP is symmetric to everything on the other side of OP
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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