B Proving the Existence of Particles: An Exploration

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The discussion revolves around the process of proving the existence of particles, particularly electrons, and the assumptions involved in scientific modeling. The original poster expresses skepticism about how experimental data leads to the conclusion of particle existence, questioning whether such conclusions are merely speculative. Concerns are raised about the potential for theories to become overly complex and disconnected from observable reality if they rely on invented concepts rather than empirical evidence. Participants emphasize that assumptions are inherent in scientific inquiry, and the challenge lies in making these assumptions explicit. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the philosophical implications of scientific discovery and the nature of theoretical constructs in physics.
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Drakkith said:
Electrons are as real as the squirrels in my back yard
He did accept that trees exists, but not electrons. Hard to imagine that he will change viewpoint due to squirrels..
 
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Iloveyou said:
the electron is an invention and not a discovery
This has been already discussed. It is sematincs.

Take the Higgs boson for instance. Invention or discovery? Why not both?
 
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Iloveyou said:
If according to the context mentioned above, the electron is an invention and not a discovery, then the thingness does not apply to electrons..
Electrons are not inventions, so your context is wrong.
 
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Drakkith said:
Electrons are not inventions, so your context is wrong.
Squirrels are inventions for sure. Never seen one.
 
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Iloveyou said:
the thingness does not apply to electrons
And with that we are done here.

Thank you everyone for your participation. This has been a good thread that has gone as far as it could
 
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