Books about Particle Physics and some clarifications

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the inquiry into models in particle physics that can accommodate particles with multiple properties, particularly in the context of fluids influenced by various forces and heat exchange. The participant expresses a desire to understand how theories are constructed to integrate these properties into cohesive models, while also being open to learning about alternative theories beyond particle physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks models in particle physics that can account for multiple properties of particles, especially in dynamic systems like fluids.
  • Another participant suggests that a solid foundation in physics is necessary before attempting to build new models, implying the need for a degree or equivalent understanding.
  • A participant mentions their background in classical physics, including knowledge of Newtonian mechanics, electromagnetism, and thermodynamics, indicating a readiness to learn more complex topics.
  • One participant humorously remarks that if they had a better theory than particle physics, they would expect a Nobel Prize.
  • Several participants recommend studying quantum mechanics (QM) and suggest specific texts, such as Griffiths' undergraduate text and its follow-up on particle physics.
  • Another participant mentions "QFT for the Gifted Amateur" as a subsequent reading after Griffiths' texts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of understanding existing models and foundational knowledge before constructing new models. However, there is no consensus on the best approach or alternative theories to particle physics, as the discussion remains open-ended.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the participant's background knowledge and the definitions of terms like "better than particle physics," which remain unresolved. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with advanced topics in physics.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the foundational aspects of particle physics, those looking to explore advanced theoretical models, and learners seeking recommendations for educational resources in quantum mechanics and particle physics.

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I would like to learn particle physics to can "construct models" and learn how was constructed, logic and mathematically, how was joined several properties of one particle to one big model.
Hi hi, I would like clarify this, I'm looking for models that can support to a particles have several properties, I know classic physics, my main problem, if we have a fluid with movement forces and heat, the classic model don't support this, only independent from each other...

So, a lot of ppl say me Particle Physics can handle particles with several properties, so it should have a model that can handle all of this, following the very very simple example, a fluid with different forces and exchange heat in the route of every particle.

I'm not interested in the "theory" it self, I wan't to know how the theory is constructed to learn how can I construct new models, how the theory join several properties into one model, but can be very interesting learn about the theory too.

If someone knows something better than Particle Physics I'm open to learn.

Thx!
 
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Before your can build your own models, you should understand existing models. Before you can understand existing models, you need a solid foundation - more or less a degree in physics. What is your background?
 
The most complex thing I saw in university was how to construct the wave equation, in classical terms I know about, Newton, electromagnetism, wave equation, light (as electromagnetism waves), reflection, refraction, fluids, thermodynamics.
In math differential equations I know until PDE (yes, would be hard to learn wave equations without know pde).
 
latot said:
If someone knows something better than Particle Physics I'm open to learn.
Even if I did, I would want the Nobel Prize for myself!
 
You need to learn QM then. Griffiths is a popular undergraduate text. You will need to go beyond that eventually, of course.
 
Griffiths also has a book on particle physics which would be a logical follow up to the quantum mechanics text.
 
... and then QFT for the Gifted Amateur.
 
Ty :D for now let's eat those books.
 

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