QFT general properties operators

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The discussion revolves around the general properties of operators in quantum field theory (QFT), particularly focusing on the quantization of the free scalar field. Participants explore the mathematical and physical implications of defining operators, their actions on states, and their relationships with classical quantities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the restrictions that operators in QFT must satisfy without knowing their explicit forms, seeking a mathematical definition of these operators.
  • Another participant asserts that operators such as a and a† are well-defined in terms of the field operator φ and its conjugate momentum π, challenging the notion that their forms are unspecified.
  • There is a discussion about whether operators like φ and a, a† only act on states of the Fock space, with one participant questioning the reasoning behind this definition and the implications for commuting with classical functions like exp(ipx).
  • Concerns are raised about the action of the nabla operator on field operators, with a request for clarification on how this interaction is defined.
  • One participant emphasizes that linear operators do not act on c-number coefficients, suggesting that this is a fundamental aspect of their definition in quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant explains that the derivative operator corresponds to momentum factors when Fourier-transforming, indicating a standard approach in QFT.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and definition of operators in QFT, particularly regarding their actions on states versus classical quantities. While some points are clarified, the discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects, particularly the foundational definitions and implications of operator actions.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of operators and the unresolved nature of how these operators interact with classical functions. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and assumptions that are not fully reconciled.

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Hi all,

I have quite basic questions about the general properties of operators in quantum field theory. When quantizing the free scalar field, for instance, you promote the classical fields to operators and impose suitable commutation relations (canonical quantization). In momentum space the harmonic oscillators decouple and you can find the spectrum by introducing a/a(dagger) operators. All of this is done without specifying the explicit form of these operators. Concering this I have some questions:

1) Without knowing the explicit form of these operators, which restrictions (physical and mathematical) do they underlie? How would mathematicians define these operators in a strict language?

2) Is it just a definition that operators like the field operator phi or a, a(dagger) only act on states of the fock space and noting else? For example when doing Fourier transformations you always commute phases exp(ipx) or general functions of x and p with these operators. How do I know that the field operators do not act on these terms? As far as I know it's just definition. What is the argument that the field operators cannot contain derivatives (like in QM the momentum space representation of p) d/dx and this way would act on exp(ipx)?

3) How does the nabla operator act on field operators?

As you can see I have some problems with the mathematical construct of these operators. At the moment I think that it's just a definition that my operators only act on fock space states and nothing else so I only have to take care when commuting operators. But I am not really sure.

Thanks in advance,

Matt
 
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the operators [itex]a,a^\dagger[/itex] are perfectly well defined and have a specified form in terms of the field and it's conjugate momentum. I don't understand why you say their form is "unspecified" They are in exact analogy to the SHO with (x,p) replaced by [itex]\phi,\pi[/itex].

In terms of the Fock space language, these are operators that when acting on the Fock space vacuum generate plane wave excitations. Again, they're perfectly well defined by specifying their action on states, just like any other linear operator (a matrix is specified by specifying all if its components).
 
You are absolutely right, they are well-definied in terms of [tex]\phi[/tex] and the momentum conjugate [tex]\pi[/tex]. What I meant with "there form is unspecified" was that they are functions of [tex]\phi , \pi[/tex] and then again depend on the properties of the field operators.

What about my questions 2) and 3)? And what is the argument that my operators do not act on c-numbers like exp(ipx)? Is it just a definition or is it clear (if so, why?)?

Thanks in advance,

Matt
 
matt8282 said:
You are absolutely right, they are well-definied in terms of [tex]\phi[/tex] and the momentum conjugate [tex]\pi[/tex]. What I meant with "there form is unspecified" was that they are functions of [tex]\phi , \pi[/tex] and then again depend on the properties of the field operators.

I'm not entirely sure I understand your confusion. [itex]\phi(x)[/itex] is a linear operator by the axioms of "second quantized quantum mechanics", and we chose to expand this operator in terms of plane waves, which we can always do. We do this because it provides a nice solution to the Klein-Gordon equation. But since the [itex]\phi[/itex] are operators, their "Fourier components" are also operators. These are the [itex]a,a^\dagger[/itex]. Nothing wrong with that.

What about my questions 2) and 3)? And what is the argument that my operators do not act on c-numbers like exp(ipx)? Is it just a definition or is it clear (if so, why?)?

Operators act on the states. That is, if you like, the definition of an "operator". The fact that they are LINEAR operators means that they don't do anything to c-number coefficients. Again, that's what the "linear" means:

[tex]T(a\vec{x}+b\vec{y})=aT(\vec{x})+bT(\vec{y})[/tex]

where a,b are c-numbers, and [itex]\vec{x},\vec{y}[/itex] are the "vectors" (in the case of QFT, Fock space elements).

Again, that they are "linear operators" is, if you wish, an axiom of quantum mechanics.

That the derivative on the field now corresponds to a factor of momentum multiplying the creation/annihilation operators is a standard trick of Fourier-transforming:

[tex]\nabla\phi(x)=\int\frac{d^3k}{(2\pi)^3}\frac{1}{\sqrt{2E_{\vec{k}}}} (\nabla e^{-ikx}a_{\vec{k}})~+~{\rm c.c}\quad=\quad\int\frac{d^3k}{(2\pi)^3}\frac{1}{\sqrt{2E_{\vec{k}}}}(-i\vec{k} e^{-ikx}a_{\vec{k}})~+~{\rm c.c}[/tex]

The fact that these are operators does not change anything.

Hope that helps!
 
Thank you very much! You really helped me solving my uncertainty.
 

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