QM having difficulty on proofs of operators

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The discussion revolves around proving properties of operators in Quantum Mechanics, specifically focusing on commutation relations involving arbitrary operators A, B, and C. The original poster expresses uncertainty in their mathematical approach and seeks clarification on specific proofs.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to prove the first commutation relation and expresses confusion about their calculations, questioning whether their math is correct. They also seek guidance on the second and third relations, indicating uncertainty about how to proceed.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's attempts, suggesting rearrangements and corrections to their expressions. There is an acknowledgment of errors in the original poster's setup, and further clarification is sought regarding the second proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in the original poster's expressions and clarify that the third double commutator was incorrectly written. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to address misunderstandings and refine the proofs without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I know this is a simple part of Quantum Mechanics, but I seem to be having trouble with it, I'm not sure if my math is just wrong or if I'm applying it wrong.

The questions that I have are:

Prove the following for arbitrary operators A,B and C:
(hint-no tricks, just write them out in full)

i- [A,c1B+c2C] = c1[A,B] + c2[A,C]

So far I've got

A[c1B+c2C] - [c1B+c2C]A = (Ac1B+Ac2C) - (c1BA + c2CA)

giving

Ac1B+Ac2C - c1BA + c2CA = c1[AB] + c2[AC] - c1[BA] + c2[CA]

but I don't know what to do from here - something should cancel, but I think my workings may be wrong.


ii-[A,BC] = [AB]C + B[A,C]

iii-[A,[B,C]] + [B,[C,A]] + [C,[B,A]] = 0

I may be able to do this one based on number ii above, but I need some help on that one first please.

Cheers
Kel
 
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Ac1B+Ac2C - c1BA + c2CA

Nothing cancels, just rearrange the terms. Btw, the second 'plus' should actually be a 'minus'.
 
ok, I've got the first one.


i- [A,c1B+c2C] = c1[A,B] + c2[A,C]
= (Ac1B+Ac2C) - (c1BA + c2CA)
= Ac1B + Ac2C - c1BA - c2CA
= c1AB - c1BA + c2AC - c2CA
= c1[AB-BA] + c2[AC-CA]
= c1[A,B] + c2[A,C]

but how, do I go about the second one??
[A,BC] = [AB]C + B[A,C]
is it?
[A,BC] = A[BC] - [BC]A

and if so (or not) where do I go from here??

Thanks in advance
Kel
 
[tex][A,BC]=ABC-BCA=ABC-BAC+BAC-BCA = \ ... \[/tex]

Daniel.
 
iii is written incorrectly. The third double commutator should be [C,[A,B]].

Daniel.
 

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