Qualitative description of photon from faraway star

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The discussion centers on the qualitative description of a photon emitted from a distant star and its interaction with a CCD detector. Participants explore the nature of the electric (E) and magnetic (B) fields associated with the photon as it travels through space. Key points include the concentration of energy in the fields just before detection and the implications of the wavefunction collapse upon absorption. The conversation highlights the complexities of visualizing photons as either wave-like or particle-like entities and the challenges in understanding their behavior over vast distances.

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  • Basic principles of black body radiation and dipole radiation
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  • Investigate "Black Body Radiation" and its implications for astrophysical observations
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Cthugha said:
Either I completely misunderstand you or we are talking past each other. My usage of thermal broadening is that a line is broadened because the emission comes from many atoms/ions/emitters/whatever that have very different velocities. This spread in the velocities causes the line to broaden. The recoil does not alter this. The cool thing Mössbauer achieved was rather the possibility of resonance fluorescence - absorption and emission (if one can even call it that way) of indistinguishable photons.
Err, yes - my mia culpa there. Meant frequency down-shift owing to either single-or-two emitter recoil would be much greater than if a collective many-particle sharing recoil were in effect. I was crossing that over in head with that value of thermal line broadening is consistent with more or less free single particles which then in a way comes back to nature of recoil processes going on. Never mind.
Hmm, you can shoot weak emission or even single photons at whatever you like. You may do experiments like antibunching (two detectors never fire simultaneously when you fire a single photon at them) to test loading theory, I think. The joint detection rate should have some dependence on the threshold energy.
An area I know next to nothing about, but may try and chase up. There is one person who has apparently solid evidence for 'funny business' in this matter involving very high energy EM radiation - gamma rays in fact. But I say no more.
Anyway, I thought loading theory is dead anyway?
Pretty sure there are at least one or two proponents lurking here. Again I say no more.
It is not too clear to me, why the detection rate should depend on the photon model. In the statistical ensemble, the results will be the same. A purely point-like photon will, however, always create problems when you try to explain interference experiments. Especially two-photon interference gets non-intuitive using a bullet-photon model.
Yes understand the appeal of wave model and would much otherwise prefer it. And as stated earlier, certainly don't subscribe to a bullet-photon concept. Have no idea if D-B theory or something else holds all the answers interpretation wise. Anyway I'm about done on this but thanks for some stimulating feedback. I had not considered the aspect of environmental decoherence before. Cheers. :zzz:
 

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