Undergrad Quantum Oscillator in 1D: How Can a Real Particle Have an Imaginary Velocity?

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In a one-dimensional quantum oscillator at the fundamental energy level, measuring a position where the potential exceeds the energy leads to an imaginary velocity, raising questions about the interpretation of such a scenario. The discussion highlights that when a particle moves into a classically forbidden region, the wave function allows for imaginary momentum values. This situation arises because the kinetic energy becomes negative, resulting in complex interpretations of particle behavior. The expectation values for momentum and position remain zero for all eigenstates, indicating that the particle's behavior can be described using both real and imaginary coefficients. The conversation emphasizes the complexities of quantum mechanics and the implications of imaginary values in particle dynamics.
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I have got a simple qstion.
We have a particle in 1d oscillator with E0( fundamental level).We know that phi~ e^-x^2 for any x, so We can measure a position and get a value x=a, such that V(a)>E0 . In this case T<0 so the velocity of the particle is imaginary, how is this even possible?, (a real particle moving an imaginary velocity.)
 
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RealKiller69 said:
We can measure a position and get a value x=a, such that V(a)>E0
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RealKiller69 said:
T<0 so the velocity of the particle is imaginary
What is 'the velocity of the particle' in your context ?
 
BvU said:
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What is 'the velocity of the particle' in your context ?
Thats what I am trying to figure out, i can consider a wave package when the particle is in the permitted region for tht energy but if it gets out of that region ( the wave function doesn't restrict the particle in a specific region) i will get an imaginary value for the momentum. How do i interpret this thought experiment??.
 
In QM, the 1-D momentum operator is ##\ \displaystyle { {\hbar\over i }{\partial \over \partial x }} \quad ## imaginary everywhere (*) -- no difference left or right of each of the classical turning points ...

As you found, the classically forbidden region past the turning points comes with a negative kinetic energy

Note that the expectation value for the momentum as well as for the position is zero for all eigenstates of the QM oscillator !(*) in the convention that we normalize to real amplitude coefficients. We can choose them purely imaginary, in which case the position operator ##x\psi## yields imaginary values !
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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