Quantum Physics Basics: An Overview

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The discussion centers on the fundamental principles of quantum physics, exploring its basic rules and how it differentiates from quantum mechanics. Participants delve into postulates of quantum physics, interpretations, and the implications of measurements, while also touching on resources for further understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the basic rules of quantum physics and its workings.
  • Others differentiate between quantum physics and quantum mechanics, suggesting that the distinction lies in the application of Special Relativity.
  • A participant proposes that non-relativistic quantum physics is referred to as quantum mechanics, while relativistic considerations lead to quantum field theory.
  • Several postulates of quantum physics are presented, including the state of a system, observables, measurement, probabilistic results, and time evolution, with some participants providing refinements to these postulates.
  • Questions arise regarding how measurement interpretations change under non-collapse theories, with participants suggesting alternative views.
  • There is a discussion about the interchangeability of the terms "quantum physics" and "quantum mechanics," with some arguing for their distinct definitions based on context.
  • Participants share recommendations for books on quantum physics, highlighting both accessible and technical resources.
  • Some participants discuss practical issues related to accessing specific pages in a well-known textbook, with suggestions for locating missing content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and distinctions between quantum physics and quantum mechanics, indicating that multiple competing interpretations and models are present in the discussion. The postulates of quantum physics are also debated, with no consensus reached on certain interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Some postulates and interpretations are presented without full agreement on their implications or definitions, and there are unresolved questions regarding the nature of measurement in quantum physics.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the foundational concepts of quantum physics, students seeking clarification on quantum mechanics, and those looking for recommended literature on the subject.

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What are the basic rules of quantum physics and how does it work?
 
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Also how does it differ from quantum mechanics?
 
The difference is whether Special Relativity is used. Non-relativistic quantum physics is known at quantum mechanics. To a good approximation, you can assume that there's a fixed number of discrete particles. But when relativistic effects become important, then you can't think purely in terms of particles; the notion of fields naturally arises from relativistic considerations. This is why relativistic quantum physics is known as quantum field theory.
 
These are the postulates of Quantum Physics:


Postulate 1: State of a system
A system is completely specified at anyone time by a Hilbert space vector.

Postulate 2: Observables of a system
A measurable quantity corresponds to an operator with eigenvectors spanning the space.

Postulate 3: Observation of a system
Measuring a system applies the observable's operator to the system and the system collapses into the observed eigenvector.

Postulate 4: Probabilistic result of measurement
The probability of observing an eigenvector is derived from the square of its wavefunction.

Postulate 5: Time evolution of a system
The way the wavefunction evolves over time is determined by Shrodinger's equation.
 
lugita15 said:
The difference is whether Special Relativity is used. Non-relativistic quantum physics is known at quantum mechanics.

Whose definition is this?

And the people who work entirely with the Dirac equation (for, say, heavy-element quantum-chemical calculations), but aren't dealing with propagators
or path integrals or any real QFT formalism, are they doing 'quantum mechanics' or 'quantum physics'?

There's non-relativistic quantum field theory and relativistic quantum mechanics that doesn't involve QFT-type formalism,
the terms "quantum physics" and "quantum mechanics" are simply interchangeable.
 
Kevin_Axion said:
Postulate 4: Probabilistic result of measurement
The probability of observing an eigenvector is derived from the square of its wavefunction.
How does this change when non-Kopenhagen / collapse-free interpretations are being considered?
 
Kevin_Axion said:
These are the postulates of Quantum Physics:



Postulate 2: Observables of a system
A measurable quantity corresponds to an operator with eigenvectors spanning the space.

Rather:
Hermitian operators that act on the Hilbert space of possible states of a system.
 
Kevin_Axion said:
These are the postulates of Quantum Physics:



Postulate 3: Observation of a system
Measuring a system applies the observable's operator to the system and the system collapses into the observed eigenvector.

and for non collapse interpretations ?
 
add:

when the operators corresponding to two physical quantities do not commute the two quantities cannot have simultaneous reality.
 
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a good book is " the elegant universe" is a really good beginnning for explaining, ( non-mathmatically) quantum physics and mechanics
 
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I downloaded a copy of Dirac's "The Principles of Quantum Mechanics" and the first chapter is (apart from some gross transcription errors) a brilliantly simple exposition of the concept of superposition. Got well into the second chapter on Dynamical Variables and Observables only to find that it is missing pp. 32 & 33. Does anyone know how I can get them?
 
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pedrapgwilym said:
I downloaded a copy of Dirac's "The Principles of Quantum Mechanics" and the first chapter is (apart from some gross transcription errors) a brilliantly simple exposition of the concept of superposition. Got well into the second chapter on Dynamical Variables and Observables only to find that it is missing pp. 32 & 33. Does anyone know how I can get them?

Hmm, you can try a library or buying the book. :smile:

However, this time you have some luck since the book is browsable on amazon

You need to create an amazon account then you can use the 'Look Inside' feature to browse the book and search most pages (eg try '33' to search for page 33) (use left and right scroll arrows to move to previous/next page)

Without an account you are limited in pages you can search. You can also view parts of the book on google books, although I just checked and one of your missing pages, 33, is not in the preview.

Then use a screenshot program or similar to save the page image, or do it the old-fashioned way and copy the pages by hand, this will aid with committing the content to memory. ;)
 
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Many thanks to you unusualname for your advice. I shall follow it! The only problem with the purchasing of scientific books is that they are usually so b****y expensive. Cheers!
 
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To unusualname:
I've done just what you wrote and found both pages 32 and 33 from Amazon. Absolutely brilliant, thank you so much! I searched on 'Eigenvalues' and got page 33, then I went to the previous page by scrolling up. Job done. Diolch yn fawr iawn!
 

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