Quantum Physics Question: What Happens When Not Observed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of observation in quantum physics, specifically regarding the behavior of electrons in a double-slit experiment when a recording of their behavior is made but not observed. The conversation touches on interpretations of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to decoherence theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether electrons would behave as if they were not observed if a recording of their behavior is made and subsequently destroyed without being viewed.
  • Another participant challenges the initial question by asking how one would know the outcome of such a scenario.
  • A third participant suggests that the answer is interpretation-dependent and provides a perspective based on decoherence theory, arguing that the act of recording affects the system irreversibly, even if the recording is destroyed.
  • This participant explains that the information from the recording remains entangled with the environment, and thus the electrons would not behave as if they were unobserved.
  • The same participant notes that true erasure of the record would require a quantum interference experiment, which is not feasible with macroscopic results due to environmental entanglement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of observation and recording in quantum mechanics, indicating that multiple competing interpretations exist without a consensus on the matter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of quantum observation and the role of environmental factors, with limitations in understanding stemming from the dependence on interpretations of quantum mechanics.

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hi.
I am not a physicist and i have a question about quantum physics. If you shoot electrons towards a double slit and record what happens on the otherside. If you then burn the recording without ever watching it - would the electron act as if it wasnt being observed?
 
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quddusaliquddus said:
hi.
I am not a physicist and i have a question about quantum physics. If you shoot electrons towards a double slit and record what happens on the otherside. If you then burn the recording without ever watching it - would the electron act as if it wasnt being observed?

This is up to a point a question which is interpretation-dependent (understand by that, anyone's guess is ok :smile:).

I'll answer from the PoV of decoherence theory: the answer would then be: no, it won't make a difference. I could go in the (partly formal) mathematics of this, but it is probably simpler to see it in the following way: even if you *burn* your records, the detailled state of the remnants (smoke, ash and all that) will still be dependent on the previously recorded result. Although it is practically impossible to "undo" this scrambling, the microstate still contains the information somehow, and as such, the entanglement with the environment has not been lifted (rather on the contrary, you've made it even more of a mess by burning the record).

The only way to really "erase" your record would be by doing a quantum interference experiment where you let your different records interfere with each other. That's of course impossible for macroscopically registered results, just BECAUSE they already got "entangled" with the environment (the information "leaked" already, due to tiny interactions between the environment and the record, into that environment).

At least, this is how things are seen from a PoV from environmental decoherence ; there are maybe other views on this question.
 
thanks for the reply.
 

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