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Are all quantum states represented by normal vectors?
The discussion revolves around the representation of quantum states, specifically whether they are represented by normal vectors, unit vectors, or rays in vector spaces. Participants explore concepts related to pure and mixed states, the significance of global phase factors, and the mathematical formalism underlying these representations.
Participants express differing views on the representation of quantum states, particularly regarding the distinction between vectors and rays, and the role of global phase factors. No consensus is reached on these points, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.
Participants highlight the complexity of the topic, including the mathematical formalism involved in representing quantum states and the implications of different representations. Some assumptions and definitions remain implicit, and the discussion does not resolve all mathematical steps or conceptual nuances.
Major slip of the brain there, I should have read my post properly. What I meant to ask is: Are all quantum states represented by unit vectors in some complex vector space?Nugatory said:Every quantum state is represented by a vector in an abstract vector space.
What exactly do you mean by "normal"?
Is this what is referred to as a global phase factor?vanhees71 said:No, pure states are never represented by unit vectors but by unit rays (i.e. by unit vectors modulo an arbitrary phase factor)
So is the direction of a vector component the defining feature for a pure state? This makes sense because two rays with the same direction but different magnitude would give the same expectation value with respect to the same observable since they are identical unit vectors once normalized. Right?Nugatory said:I would say that they are represented by rays, where a ray is a set of all vectors that are a complex constant multiple of one another (same "direction", different magnitudes).
I thought that pure states corresponded to points on the bloch sphere which are defined by unit vectors aren't they?vanhees71 said:It is an important point to make clear that pure states are represented as rays not as vectors in Hilbert space.
jimmycricket said:So what exactly are they there for or why do they appear?
jimmycricket said:I must admit I've had a difficult time getting to grips with these global phase factors. I am currently writing a project on the basics of quantum information and quantum computing and they crop up everywhere. I understand that global phase factors are essentially irrelevant since they do not affect the expectation values for any observables. My proffesor has brushed over the toic when I have mentioned it. So what exactly are they there for or why do they appear?