Quarter note bass drum patterns feel oppressive

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Following on from another discussion regarding John Cage, led me to look into his work a little more.

I very rarely hear this sort of thing on the radio, TV or anywhere really.

I always referred to this kind of modern classical music as “plink plonk.”

I do not hate it but given enough air time..

What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?

 

[pinball1970]

What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?

So he is also the guy who stuck stuff in the piano? Yep hate that.

 

[pinball1970]

What about these?





Or this John Cage piece?

Ligeti and Carter? There is more structure than Cage (who I have finally decided I hate with no ambiguity)
It is fast on the whole, the chords make no sense (to me) and I think of a thriller movie where a woman is running through the woods at night escaping from a lunatic.
Some of the runs are clever (and I would love to have reading skills and techniques to be able to play like that on the piano) but the music on the whole fills me with a sense of dread and anxiety.

 

[Hornbein]

I really loathe this one.

 

[DaveC426913]

Huh. I love it. Did a lap around the block to hear it when it came on the radio.

 

[pinball1970]

I really loathe this one.

I should hate this but I don't. EDIT: I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music. This is them BUT I do like this track. Anyway I will post some garbage to make up for it.

 

[pinball1970]

1987, probably one of the worst years in pop music history. Forget learning to play, music structure, creativity, lyrics. You can make garbage like this and because it's 1987 people will like it.

 

[pinball1970]

If you can find a worst track than this then I will take my hat off.
To call this talentless garbage gives refuse with low ability a bad name. It is bad. Ghastly.

 

[pinball1970]

The lovely Sonia

 

[pinball1970]

Paul Simon. Yes, the creator of that beautiful music from the music of the 60s and 70s disappeared in the abyss of nothingness that was the mid 80s. This is an annoying tune/ arrangement, ridiculous backwards bass (spot it) and stupid video. Cannot stand it.

 

[pinball1970]

Sam fox was a glamour model in the 1980s. Pretty grim looking back at it. (I will let you Google)
Anyway an attempt to create a British Madonna she got some tracks, a production team, video.... This was the result.
She was quite a smart business woman early doors looking back at her career. That is not was art is supposed to be though.

 

[pinball1970]

This.

 

[pinball1970]

Steven Tin Tin Duffy.

 

[pinball1970]

This kind of sparked the beginning of the end of serious pop music for me

 

[pinball1970]

Garbage.

 

[gmax137]

This kind of sparked the beginning of the end of serious pop music for me

For me, the end came from the confluence of
1: MTV stopped playing music
2: birth of "classic rock" radio
3: reaching my mid 20's

oh, and:
4: the "not classic rock" radio stations playing rap/hip-hop

 

[pinball1970]

More garbage.

 

[gmax137]

Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.

 

[pinball1970]

Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.

Yep. Garbage.

 

[Hornbein]

Oh, and I detest that auto tune sound. Ugh. Instantly snap the radio off.

Robot-level Autotune is sort of like refined sugar. I liked it for about a week. That was enough.

My musician friend tells me that everyone uses it. Usually it's subtle enough that only experts can tell. That doesn't bother me. Who knows. maybe it's good.

 

[pinball1970]

Robot-level Autotune is sort of like refined sugar. I liked it for about a week. That was enough.

My musician friend tells me that everyone uses it. Usually it's subtle enough that only experts can tell. That doesn't bother me. Who knows. maybe it's good.

It is not good. It is taking an inaccurate voice and touching it up. Great voices can be inaccurate but if they really have something then true personality and colour are added. That certain Je n'sais quoi.

 

[pinball1970]

What the hell was "Jack?" Dance? This song is saying forget great 70s music and buy this formulaic dance music instead. Make me some money and I will build a production line of it. It worked for a time sadly.

 

[MidgetDwarf]

It is not good. It is taking an inaccurate voice and touching it up. Great voices can be inaccurate but if they really have something then true personality and colour are added. That certain Je n'sais quoi.

I would have to disagree, of course it was the talk box Roger used, but he made magic with it.

But yes, autotune is garbage. It's the repetitive nature of it, and lack of creativity.

 

[pinball1970]

I would have to disagree, of course it was the talk box Roger used, but he made magic with it.

But yes, autotune is garbage. It's the repetitive nature of it, and lack of creativity.

I like the guitar in Haitian Divorce

 

[DennisN]

I really loathe this one.

Huh. I love it. Did a lap around the block to hear it when it came on the radio.

I should hate this but I don't.

Haha, I've loved that song ever since it was released. Well written and extremely catchy.
And an extra bonus is that it brings back good memories from the 80s for me.

I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music.

I took me a while to understand what you meant by SAW.
I guess you mean Stock Aitken Waterman?

 

[DennisN]

I should add that SAW were the worst thing to ever happen in pop music.

Really?

Have you considered:





The lyrics have the depth of a plate.

 

[DennisN]

Ska is like reggae without the inclusion and "goodnatureness". As if a bunch of hippie musicians ran out of weed.

...and started using metamphetamines instead .

 

[fresh_42]

Really?

Have you considered:





The lyrics have the depth of a plate.

DO NOT OPEN!

 

[pinball1970]

DO NOT OPEN!

I opened......the horror...

It was like a stereotype, of a 1980s cliché.

 

[pinball1970]

I didn't mind Russ Abbott, he was funny in the 80s. After this was released he was not funny any more.