Real Quasar Image: Gamma Radiation Burst on Science Channel Program

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The discussion revolves around the identification of a specific image of a quasar emitting gamma radiation, as seen on a science channel program. Participants explore the nature of quasars, gamma ray bursts, and the accuracy of representations in media, while seeking to clarify the details surrounding the image and its context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes seeing a real image of a quasar with a gamma radiation burst, resembling Hubble deep field photos.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the image and asks for the name of the show where it was featured.
  • The show "How the Universe Works" is identified, with a specific episode discussing black holes and claiming to show a real image of a gamma beam.
  • A participant suggests that the image might be of the relativistic jet from M87, clarifying that M87 is not a quasar but an active galactic nucleus, and notes the distance difference between M87 and quasars.
  • One participant acknowledges that the suggested image is indeed the one they were referring to but expresses confusion over the program's claims regarding quasars and gamma bursts.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of the program's statements, arguing that gamma ray bursts do not resemble relativistic jets and that Hubble cannot detect gamma rays.
  • A participant raises a question about the existence of quasars in nearby galaxies despite their high redshift, referencing an external article.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the accuracy of the program's claims regarding quasars and gamma ray bursts, with some expressing skepticism about the information presented. There are competing views on the nature of the image and the definitions of quasars versus active galactic nuclei.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of quasars and gamma ray bursts, as well as the capabilities of telescopes like Hubble in detecting such phenomena. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the accuracy of media representations of astronomical objects.

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I saw a real image of a quasar bursting out gamma radiation on a science channel program and I am having trouble finding the image, or any like it on the internet. All I can find are CG rendered things, and IR/UV images. The photo that I am referring to looked a bit like the Hubble deep field photos, but it had a giant blue beam coming through it towards the camera. You could not miss it.

Is there some specific keyword I should be using to search for this?
 
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I tried on google for a few minutes but didn't see anything like what you are describing. I would be interested in seeing it as well. What was the show you watched called?
 
It was called "How the universe works" (Narrated by Mike Rowe). The episode on black holes had what they claimed was (and what looked like) a real image of the gamma beam. I just wanted to see more images like it, it was impressive albeit low-res.
 
The relativistic jet from M87? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M87_jet.jpg

If so, that's not a quasar; it's just an ordinary active galactic nucleus. M87 is only 50 million light years away, whereas the nearest quasar is at 2 billion ly.
 
That is indeed the picture! Thanks. They clearly stated that it was the gamma burst from a quasar in the program.:eek: But they were also talking about black holes and whatnot. I'm going to have to re-watch that, clearly I misunderstood what they said.
 
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That is indeed the picture! Thanks. They clearly stated that it was the gamma burst from a quasar in the program.:eek: But they were also talking about black holes and whatnot. I'm going to have to re-watch that, clearly I misunderstood what they said.

It wouldn't surprise me if the program got the facts completely wrong. The first problem is that M87 is not a quasar. The second is that gamma ray bursts look nothing like relativistic jets. They're so distant, and caused by objects so small in extent (namely supernovae and binary neutron star mergers) that the best conceivable telescopes can't reveal them as more than a point. The third problem is that gamma ray bursts emit gamma rays, which Hubble doesn't have the capability to detect.
 

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