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Is any distinction made between an expression like A^\nu A_\mu and one that looks like A^\mu A_\mu? I can justify something like this to myself through some vague hand-waving and mention of a phrase like "just dummy indices," but this isn't convincing even to me...and I'm making the argument!

If the context matters, tell me, and I'll provide some. Thanks!
 
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AxiomOfChoice said:
Is any distinction made between an expression like A^\nu A_\mu and one that looks like A^\mu A_\mu?

The Einstein summation convention is invoked on repeated indices, so the difference is that A^u A_v is a tensor, but A^u A_u=\sum_u A^uA_u which is a scalar.
 
cristo said:
The Einstein summation convention is invoked on repeated indices, so the difference is that A^u A_v is a tensor, but A^u A_u=\sum_u A^uA_u which is a scalar.
cristo: Thank you. Of course. I should have known that. I could have saved both of us time and effort if I'd recognized it. Guess that's what happens when you don't really know what you're doing.
 

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