Question about applying the Pauli Exclusion Principle

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The Pauli Exclusion Principle asserts that no two identical fermions can occupy the same quantum state within a defined system. In statistical thermodynamics, this principle applies to non-interacting fermions, limiting occupancy to one fermion per single particle state. The discussion clarifies that the definition of a "system" can extend to the entire universe, where all fermions of a particular type are considered, yet the principle remains valid. The use of Dirac notation allows for the representation of fermionic states without explicit spatial relations, ensuring compliance with the Pauli principle inherently.

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The principle states that no two identical fermions in a system can be in the same quantum state, but what I don't fully understand is how you define a "system". For example when you apply statistical thermodynamics to a gas of non-interacting fermions you say that a maximum of one can occupy each single particle state. Maybe I'm confused or forgetting something important but I don't see why you couldn't consider all fermions of a particular kind in the universe as a system of non-interacting particles in the same way and conclude that none of them can share a single particle state.
 
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Of course, you may consider a whole Universe as a system. Pauli's 'system' was introduced just to abstract of spatial relations. Or to reduce those spatial relations to something feasible for calculations (like atomic orbitals)
 
In the abstract Dirac notation no spatial relations are required. Writing down a fermionic quantum state satisfies the Pauli principle by construction (or by the formalism). And of course it applies to the universe as a whole.
 

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