Question about monoisotopic elements

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The discussion centers around the concept of monoisotopic elements, specifically focusing on beryllium and its isotopes. Participants explore the implications of an element having only one stable isotope and seek clarification on the terminology and characteristics of beryllium-9 and beryllium-8.

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  • One participant questions what it means for an element to have only one stable isotope, using beryllium as an example.
  • Another participant confirms that beryllium has only one stable isotope, beryllium-9, and discusses the instability of beryllium-8, noting its short half-life.
  • A participant suggests that beryllium-8 could be referred to as "bihelium," describing it as an unstable combination of two helium nuclei.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology used for beryllium-8, with one participant emphasizing its highly unstable nature and questioning the use of "normal" to describe it.

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Participants express uncertainty about the terminology related to beryllium-8 and its classification, with no consensus reached on what to call it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of stability and the definitions used.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of stability and the characteristics of isotopes, as well as the assumptions made about the terminology used for unstable isotopes.

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Question about monoisotopic elements...

Of the 80 elements with at least one stable isotope, 26 have only one single stable isotope. The mean number of stable isotopes for the 80 stable elements is 3.1 stable isotopes per element. The largest number of stable isotopes that occur for a single element is 10 (for tin, element 50).

What does it mean for an element to have only one single stable isotope? I don't quite get it. I read that beryllium has only one stable isotope, which is beryllium-9. Does that mean that other than the normal beryllium, which has 4 protons and 4 neutrons and a mass number of 8, there is only one stable nuclide that isn't radioactive for beryllium? And what if beryllium-9 is called a stable isotope, what would the normal beryllium-8 with 4 protons and 4 neutons be called?
 
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marc32123 said:
… beryllium has only one stable isotope, which is beryllium-9. Does that mean that other than the normal beryllium, which has 4 protons and 4 neutrons and a mass number of 8, there is only one stable nuclide that isn't radioactive for beryllium? And what if beryllium-9 is called a stable isotope, what would the normal beryllium-8 with 4 protons and 4 neutons be called?

miraculum? :biggrin:

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoisotopic_element
The single mononuclidic exception is beryllium, which has 4 protons and 5 neutrons.
This isotope is prevented from having equal numbers of neutrons and protons (4 of each) by the instability toward double-alpha decay, which is favored due to the extremely tight binding of helium-4 nuclei.
It is prevented from having a stable isotope with 4 protons and 6 neutrons by the very large mismatch in proton/neutron ratio for such a light element. (Nevertheless, beryllium-10 has a half-life of 1.36 million years, which is too short to be primordial, but still indicates unusual stability for a light isotope with such an imbalance).​
 
Thanks but still I am wondering, if beryllium-9 is called a stable isotope of beryllium, what would the normal beryllium-8 with 4 protons and 4 neutons be called?
 
marc32123 said:
… what would the normal beryllium-8 with 4 protons and 4 neutons be called?

that's a rather strange use of the word "normal"!

it would only be a resonance, but i suppose you could call it "bihelium", since it is essentially an unstable combination of two helium nuclei (ie two alpha-particles) …

each helium nucleus exists in its own tightly-bound little world, pretty much oblivious of the other helium nucleus!
 
marc32123 said:
what would the normal beryllium-8 with 4 protons and 4 neutons be called?

8Be undergoes alpha decay with a half-life of about 7 x 10-17 s. I would call that "highly unstable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_beryllium

(what other kind of 8Be is there? :confused:)
 
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