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The discussion revolves around the problem of probabilistic combinatorial maximization involving a set of independent and identically distributed (i.i.d.) positive random variables. Participants explore the evaluation of the expectation of the maximum sum of selected combinations of these random variables, as well as the distribution of such sums. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and mathematical formulations related to order statistics and limiting behavior.

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  • One participant introduces the problem of evaluating the expectation of the maximum sum of combinations of i.i.d. positive random variables and seeks guidance on the terminology and approach.
  • Another participant suggests that the maximizing combination would include all positive random variables and discusses the implications of conditioning on positive values, leading to a tractable problem involving the sum of i.i.d. variables.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that since the random variables are positive, the maximum sum is simply the sum of all variables, thus simplifying the problem to finding the distribution of the sum of i.i.d. random variables.
  • Another participant reiterates the initial problem and introduces the concept of upper order statistics, proposing a method to calculate the expectation of the maximum sum using order statistics notation.
  • A later reply inquires about limiting results as the number of variables approaches infinity, asking how the maximum sum scales under different conditions of fixed ratios between the number of selected variables and the total number of variables.
  • One participant responds with insights on the convergence of empirical cumulative distribution functions (CDFs) and proposes conditions under which the maximum sum behaves predictably as the number of variables increases.

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Participants express differing views on the complexity of the problem, with some suggesting it is straightforward while others indicate it remains non-trivial. There is no consensus on the limiting behavior of the maximum sum as parameters change, and multiple perspectives on the approach to the problem are presented.

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Limitations include assumptions about the distributions of the random variables and the conditions under which the limiting behaviors are discussed. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps or the implications of the proposed limiting results.

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Hello,

I have some question about probabilistic combinatorial maximization as follows:

Let X = {X_1, ..., X_n} be a set of i.i.d. positive random variables,
S = {s_i} be a set of all combinations of selecting m r.v.'s from X, and
Y(s_i) = the sum of r.v.'s in the combination s_i .
I would like to evaluate the expectation of max_{s_i \in S} Y(s_i) or find out its distribution.

Since I am not sure what this type of problem is called, I have not been able to search for the solution. Any help or pointer is appreciated. Thank you so much.
 
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Hmm -- I've never seen anything like this before, either.

First, for any given sample, the s_i that maximizes Y is going to be the one that includes all positive X's and leaves out all the negative ones. The number of positive X's will just be a binomial with p = Pr[X > 0] and N=n. Let's call that k. Then, those k X's will be IID, with the distribution being that of the original X, conditioned on X>0. If X has a PDF f(x), the PDF of the positive X's will be

[tex] \begin{eqnarray*}<br /> f^+(x) & = & \frac{1}{N}<br /> \begin{array}{ll}<br /> \{ & <br /> \begin{array}{ll}<br /> 0 & x<0 \\<br /> f(x) & x\geq 0<br /> \end{array}<br /> <br /> \end{array} \\<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> N & = & \int _0^{\infty }f(x)dx<br /> \end{eqnarray*}[/tex]

So your problem reduces to the sum of k IID variables, with k binomially distributed, and each variable having a distribution corresponding to the positive part of the distribution of the X's.

Still not a simple problem, but it begins to look tractable.
 
Thanks pmrw3. But, I should have added that X_i is positive r.v. only.
 
Well, in that case it's trivial. You obviously maximize the sum by summing up all the X's. So you just have the problem of finding the distribution of the sum of IID random variables.
 
sak2inf said:
Hello,

I have some question about probabilistic combinatorial maximization as follows:

Let X = {X_1, ..., X_n} be a set of i.i.d. positive random variables,
S = {s_i} be a set of all combinations of selecting m r.v.'s from X, and
Y(s_i) = the sum of r.v.'s in the combination s_i .
I would like to evaluate the expectation of max_{s_i \in S} Y(s_i) or find out its distribution.

Since I am not sure what this type of problem is called, I have not been able to search for the solution. Any help or pointer is appreciated. Thank you so much.

Here Z=max(...) is simply the sum of the m largest values of the X_k, i.e. the upper order statistics. Using the notation X_{1:n}<=...<=X_{n:n} for the order stats then Z=X_{n-m+1:n}+...+X_{n:n} and E[Z]=E[X_{n-m+1:n}]+...+E[X_{n:n}].

If the X_k are continuous then E[X_{k:n}] can be calculated as

E[X_{k:n}] = int_{-inf}^{inf} x*(n!/(k-1)!(n-k)!)*F(x)^(k-1)*(1-F(x))^(n-k)*f(x) dx
 
Thanks both pmrw3 and bpet for the replies. I think what bpet had is essentially the answer.

In addition, does anyone know if there is limiting result? For example, how Z scales when n -> infnity or when n,m -> infnity with fixed ratio m/n. Thank you.
 
The empirical cdf converges to the distribution cdf as n -> inf, so that implies that Z/m -> E[X|F(X)>1-m/n]. If m is fixed then Z/m -> xf (the right end-point of the distribution) or if m/n is fixed then Z/m -> E[X|X>F^{-1)(1-m/n)] and I guess if either of these are finite you could apply a CLT argument as well.
 

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