Question about the obliquity of the ecliptic

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The discussion revolves around the obliquity of the ecliptic, specifically how the Earth's axial tilt of approximately 23 degrees from its orbital plane was determined. Participants explore the definitions and locations of the north pole, south pole, and equator, as well as methods of celestial navigation used by early explorers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the poles are defined by the Earth's axis of rotation, with the equator positioned halfway between them, and that the tilt can be measured by observing the sun's altitude changes throughout the seasons.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on how the Earth's axis of rotation was determined, suggesting that it can be observed by looking at the North Star.
  • Further elaboration includes the idea that celestial navigation, used by early explorers, involved more complexity than merely measuring the altitude of Polaris, as Polaris is not perfectly aligned with the polar axis.
  • A participant mentions using a polar alignment scope in their telescope to align with the Earth's rotational axis to a high degree of accuracy, indicating the use of multiple methods for precise alignment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic concepts of Earth's axial tilt and its measurement, but there is no consensus on the specific methods used to determine the axis of rotation, as different approaches and complexities are discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on various methods of celestial navigation and measurement, but does not resolve the complexities involved in determining the Earth's axial tilt and rotation.

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Question about the "obliquity of the ecliptic"

Hello guys, I hope I am in the correct forum for this question. If not, then I am sorry.
How was it determined that the Earth was tilted roughly 23 degrees from its orbital plane? Or, how did the current locations/definitions of the north pole, the south pole and the equator come about.
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The poles are the axis of rotation of the earth, the equator halfway in between, and the tilt was determined from that (it is easily measured by measuring the altitude change of the sun with the seasons).
 
Thanks for your quick reply RW. I understand that of which you have explained. I guess my question is how was the Earth's axis of rotation determined.
 
plutoisacomet said:
I guess my question is how was the Earth's axis of rotation determined.
You can see it when you look at the North Star at night. The location of the equator can also be determined by watching the stars and Sun.

Early explorers of the arctic did, in fact, use celestial navigation to figure out where they were. It is actually slightly more complicated than just measuring the altitude of Polaris - Polaris isn't exactly on our polar axis.

My telescope has a handy-dandy polar alignment scope which helps me align it with the Earth's rotational axis to within a tenth of a degree or so. Then using several other methods, I can get even closer than that.
 
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I see and thanks for clearing that up for me. I haven't had any Astronomy classes yet but I plan to take several.
Thanks again
 

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