Question about the Poincaré conjecture

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The discussion centers around the implications of Perelman’s proof of the Poincaré conjecture, particularly whether it suggests that the universe is the surface of a 3-sphere. The scope includes theoretical implications of mathematical proofs in relation to physical cosmology.

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  • Some participants question how a mathematical proof can inform us about the physical universe.
  • One participant argues that the Poincaré conjecture's premise involves closed simply connected 3-manifolds, suggesting that there are many simply connected 3-manifolds that are not homeomorphic to the 3-sphere.
  • This participant also notes that the universe may not be a closed manifold, implying that local observations of simply connectedness do not necessarily lead to the conclusion that the universe is a 3-sphere.
  • Another point raised is that while the universe appears locally simply connected, this does not guarantee that it is globally simply connected.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the Poincaré conjecture for the structure of the universe, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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The discussion highlights limitations in assumptions regarding the nature of the universe and the definitions of manifolds, as well as the distinction between local and global properties of manifolds.

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Does Perelman’s proof of the Poincaré conjecture imply that the universe is the surface of a 3 sphere?
Does Perelman’s proof of the Poincaré conjecture imply that the universe is the surface of a 3 sphere?
 
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donglepuss said:
TL;DR Summary: Does Perelman’s proof of the Poincaré conjecture imply that the universe is the surface of a 3 sphere?

Does Perelman’s proof of the Poincaré conjecture imply that the universe is the surface of a 3 sphere?
No.
 
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How can a methematical proof tell us anything about the physical universe?
 
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You haven't provided your reasoning for why you would be curious about this, so I'm left to assume that it's because from our local observations the universe appears to be a simply connected 3-manifold. There are two main reasons this doesn't imply the universe is the 3-sphere:

1) The Poincare conjecture takes as its premise closed simply connected 3-manifolds. These are compact manifolds without boundary. There are an abundance of simply connected 3-manifolds that aren't homeomorphic to the 3-sphere, but they are also non-compact (3-dimensional Euclidean space) or have non-empty boundary (the 3-ball). It is possible that the universe is not a closed manifold.

2) Our observations imply the universe is locally simply connected (i.e. simply connected within some neighborhood of a point). Every manifold is locally simply connected because every manifold is locally Euclidean. However, not every manifold is simply connected.

Hope this helped.
 
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