MHB Question: How do I calculate conditional probability in this scenario?

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The discussion focuses on calculating conditional probabilities using Bayes' Theorem and related concepts. Participants explore various scenarios involving packets, specifically UDP packets and their sizes, to determine probabilities such as P(U|N) and P(U|S). The calculations involve intersections of events and the application of the Law of Total Probability. There is some uncertainty expressed regarding specific probability values and the correct application of the formulas. Overall, the conversation emphasizes a collaborative effort to clarify and solve conditional probability problems.
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i am trying to push myself and learn these furTher exercises in my maths i would any appreciate any comments and help.

Question 1 what is probability u happens if n happens... P(U INTERSECTION N) / P(U)?

Question 2 probability of U or S happening in the sample space of UDP or 52 byte size packet? Let me think hmmm
450,000: UDP, 20% UDP 450,000 times 0.2 answr correct?? :)

Question 3 pick at random packet and packet of size 52. 1million packet so (0.2*450,000)+(0.9*500,000) correct again? :)

Question 4 probabalility u happens given s happens and is type of UDP ok P(U intersection S) / P(U)?

Question 5 not of size 52 bytes and is UDP so probability of U given N oh ok.
P(U intersection N) / P(N) = (450,000 INTERSECTION (450,000 * 0.8)) / (450000*0.8+500,000 * 0.1)?
Sample size of anything is equal to 1.

Nevertheless i am not quite sure i am appreciating insight and help, thanks.
 

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Leanna said:
i am trying to push myself and learn these furTher exercises in my maths i would any appreciate any comments and help.

Question 1 what is probability u happens if n happens... P(U INTERSECTION N) / P(U)?

Question 2 probability of U or S happening in the sample space of UDP or 52 byte size packet? Let me think hmmm
450,000: UDP, 20% UDP 450,000 times 0.2 answr correct?? :)

Question 3 pick at random packet and packet of size 52. 1million packet so (0.2*450,000)+(0.9*500,000) correct again? :)

Question 4 probabalility u happens given s happens and is type of UDP ok P(U intersection S) / P(U)?

Question 5 not of size 52 bytes and is UDP so probability of U given N oh ok.
P(U intersection N) / P(N) = (450,000 INTERSECTION (450,000 * 0.8)) / (450000*0.8+500,000 * 0.1)?
Sample size of anything is equal to 1.

Nevertheless i am not quite sure i am appreciating insight and help, thanks.

Hi Leanna, (Wave)

Welcome to MHB!

Let me see if I can try to help some...

Question 1 what is probability u happens if n happens... P(U INTERSECTION N) / P(U)?

Here is what you correctly stated : $$P(U|N) = \frac{P(U \cap N)}{P(N)}$$.

This is a question on Bayes' Theorem. Usually we can rewrite the above in an equivalent way:

$$P(U|N) = \frac{P(U \cap N)}{P(N)} = \frac{P(N|U)\cdot P(U)}{P(N)}$$

Looking at this it makes sense that the first question written on the page is $P(N|U)$. Do you have any idea what this probability is? :)
 
Answer to first q
P(n|u) = 0.8 right?
P(n|t) = 0.1 right ? and

Second question answer is 0.05?
 
Leanna said:
Answer to first q
P(n|u) = 0.8 right?
P(n|t) = 0.1 right ? and

Yes these both sound correct to me.

To finish answering your first question, what is $P(U)$ and what is $P(N)$ (this one is trickier)?
 
Jameson said:
Yes these both sound correct to me.

To finish answering your first question, what is $P(U)$ and what is $P(N)$ (this one is trickier)?

I worked that out but is the last question 0.667 (3d.p), the reason I'm not sure about this last question is because the approximations at the bottom is different.

And is the second to last question I think: $P(U|S)$ = (90,000/1,000,000) / (540,000/1,000,000)
Only these two I'm not completely sure it's right, what do you think? 😁
 
Leanna said:
I worked that out but is the last question 0.667 (3d.p), the reason I'm not sure about this last question is because the approximations at the bottom is different.

And is the second to last question I think: $P(U|S)$ = (90,000/1,000,000) / (540,000/1,000,000)
Only these two I'm not completely sure it's right, what do you think? 😁

$$P(U|S) = \frac{P(S|U)\cdot P(U)}{P(S)}$$

The numerator has two components to multiply and $P(S)$ can be expanded into two cases using the Law of Total Probability. $P(S)=P(S|U)\cdot P(U)+P(S|T)\cdot P(T)$.
 

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