Questions about algebraic curves and homogeneous polynomial equations

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The discussion revolves around the nature of algebraic curves defined by homogeneous polynomial equations, specifically in the context of plane curves in projective space. Participants explore definitions, properties, and examples of such curves, including the process of homogenization and the implications for different polynomial forms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a plane algebraic curve is defined by a homogeneous polynomial equation in ##\mathcal{CP}^{2}##, questioning whether given equations qualify as algebraic curves based on this definition.
  • Another participant challenges the initial concern about the definitions, suggesting that it is unnecessary to be overly pedantic in verifying the definitions with specific coefficients.
  • A different participant clarifies that the definition provided refers to a curve in ##\mathbb{C}P^1## rather than ##\mathbb{C}P^2##, and discusses the process of homogenizing non-homogeneous polynomials to define curves in projective space.
  • One participant critiques the initial definition, arguing that the sum of indices ##i+j## should be constant for a polynomial to be considered homogeneous, while acknowledging the process of homogenization for non-homogeneous polynomials.
  • Another participant notes that geometers typically consider plane curves up to isomorphism, providing examples of how different conics can be transformed into simpler forms through linear changes of coordinates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and properties of algebraic curves, particularly regarding the nature of homogeneity and the implications of homogenization. No consensus is reached on the initial definitions or the classification of the provided equations as algebraic curves.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of homogeneous polynomials and the conditions under which certain equations can be classified as algebraic curves. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the context of projective versus affine planes.

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Here, I present a few questions on the concept of homogeneous polynomial equations and their connection with algebraic curves. Since the latter is a topic of great interest, I think these questions as well as their answers might be of interest to those who subscribe to PhysicsForums.
It is generally well-known that a plane algebraic curve is a curve in ##\mathcal{CP}^{2}## given by a homogeneous polynomial equation ##f(x,y)= \sum^{N}_{i+j=0}a_{i\,j}x^{i}y^{j}=0##, where ##i## and ##j## are nonnegative integers and not all coefficients ##a_{ij}## are zero~[1].
In addition, if ##f(x,y)## is a homogeneous polynomial of degree ##d##, then [2]
$$f(tx,ty)=t^{d}f(x,y)$$
With those definitions before us, may we say that the following equations,
$$320 x^4-512 x^3 y+176 x^3+272 x^2 y^2-184 x^2 y+34 x^2$$
$$-96 x y^3+160 x y^2-84 x y+14 x+160 y^4-272 y^3+172 y^2-48 y+5=0 $$
and
$$ 25 x^2-120 x y-10 x+244 y^2+124 y+26=0$$
are algebraic curves? if so, how may I prove it using the definitions presented above?

References

1. Jennings, G. A. (2012). Modern Geometry with Applications. Estados Unidos: Springer New York.
2. Prasolov, V. V., Lando, S. K., Kazaryan, M. E. (2019). Algebraic Curves: Towards Moduli Spaces. Alemanha: Springer International Publishing.
 
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What makes you worried that these do not immediately follow the definition you give for an algebraic curve? If it makes you feel better you can write out for the first one if meets the definition with ##a_{4,0}=320## etc, but no one would be this pedantic usually.
 
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Bobby Lee said:
It is generally well-known that a plane algebraic curve is a curve in ##\mathcal{CP}^{2}## given by a homogeneous polynomial equation ##f(x,y)= \sum^{N}_{i+j=0}a_{i\,j}x^{i}y^{j}=0##, where ##i## and ##j## are nonnegative integers and not all coefficients ##a_{ij}## are zero~[1].
This defines a (finite) subset of ##\mathbb{C}P^1##, not ##\mathbb{C}P^2.## An algebraic curve in ##\mathbb{C}P^2## could be described as the zero set of a homogenous polynomial in ##3## variables.

When you have a possibly nonhomoenous polynomial in ##n## variables, you can "homogenize" it by multiplying each term by an appropriate power of a new variable. For example, the equation ##x^2+y+1=0## defines a curve in the affine plane, but ##x^2+yz+z^2=0## defines a curve in the projective plane. These curves are related because if you take the points ##[x:y:z]## where ##z\neq 0## and identify it with the affine plane by scaling ##z## to be ##1##, then the two curves coincide.
 
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your definition in #1 seems to be flawed. you have the value of i+j varying, whereas the definition of homogeneous is that i+j should be constant. However as infrared has pointed out, your example of a non homogeneous polynomial in 2 variables, can be homogenized to give a homogeneous polynomial in 3 variables, and thus in this way does define a projective plane curve in the projective plane. Namely, the polynomial you give defines an affine plane curve, but the projective plane is a compactification of the affine plane, and the homogenization defines the closure in the projective plane of this affine plane curve.

e.g. your last equation, after homogenization, becomes
x^2 -120xy -10xz +244y^2 +124yz +26z^2 = 0
 
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by the way, you may be interested in that specific curve, but geometers usually consider plane curves only up to isomorphism, and that conic I gave is linearly isomorphic to the much simpler one given by x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 0, i.e. they are the same, after a linear change of coordinates. Up to linear isomorphism, there are only 3 different conics, given by x^2 (double line), x^2+y^2 (two distinct lines), and x^2+y^2+z^2 (smooth irreducible conic). this transformation of an arbitrary conic into such simpler ones is called "diagonalizing a quadratic form". (I assume here you are working over the complex numbers, as implied by your notation CP^2.)
 
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