Questions about going into physics from mathematics background

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transition from a mathematics background to pursuing a PhD in physics. Participants explore the feasibility of entering physics graduate programs, the necessary coursework, and the potential pathways through master's programs or additional undergraduate studies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that certain colleges in the US may accept students into physics PhD programs with a mathematics background, particularly smaller programs that allow for catching up on undergraduate coursework.
  • It is proposed that taking foundational physics courses such as E&M, classical mechanics, and quantum mechanics could be beneficial for preparing for the Physics GRE.
  • One participant mentions that their university has accepted students from diverse backgrounds, including math and biology, into their physics PhD program.
  • There is a suggestion that pursuing a master's degree in physics could be a viable option before applying to a PhD program, especially if finances are a concern.
  • Another participant shares an anecdote about a math professor who transitioned from a physics background to a math PhD, indicating that such transitions are possible.
  • Questions are raised about specific schools that allow for "catching up" on physics courses and whether spending a year as an undergraduate to take these courses might be a good strategy.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the role of mathematicians in physics and whether they can work on physics problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that transitioning from mathematics to physics is possible, though the specifics of how to do so and the best path forward remain contested. There is no consensus on the best approach, as various options are discussed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific information about which programs are more flexible regarding admissions and the varying requirements for different physics graduate programs.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals with a mathematics background considering a transition to physics graduate studies, as well as those interested in the intersection of mathematics and physics.

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Hi all.

I'm studying mathematics (I have one year left) and can't get any good answers from my professors.

I'm interested in going into physics now after reading Sakurai's books on QM. I'm interested in (obviously) QM, particle, and cosmology. Mainly the theoretical side.

Is it possible to move into a Physics PhD programme in the USA with a bachelor's in Mathematics? Are there some mathematics/physics courses I should take which will help me do well on the Physics GRE? I've taken the first year E&M courses but beyond that, no physics.

Or should I consider a MS programme in Physics, then transfer to a northeast PhD programme?

What about doing a MSc in Britain? Is it easier to get a MSc in physics with a mathematics background, then go into a PhD programme?

Are there good schools which will let you do a second bachelor's degree in physics with a mathematics background? Finances are an issue...

Finally, how exactly do mathematicians work alongside a physicist? Can I as a mathematician be working on physics problems or no? I don't really understand it...
 
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There are some colleges in the US that will consider accepting you into a physics PhD program with a math background. Perhaps not the highest-ranked programs, but smaller programs (many of which are still very good) will be more willing to work with you if you've got good grades and you're willing to spend a year catching up on undergraduate coursework. I know my university has accepted people to the physics PhD program with math and biology backgrounds and let them catch up. If you can take a few physics courses this year, that would help - E&M (Griffiths level or higher), modern physics, classical mechanics, QM, thermodynamics and statistical mechanics are the backbone courses of any physics degree. To prepare for the physics GRE, I'd recommend E&M, classical and QM - but don't take just my word for it, I bombed the physics GRE (and still got into grad school).

If finances are an issue, you should be looking at PhD programs in the US - you'd still get paid while working on your masters. Applying as a masters student only decreases your chances of both admission and funding.
 
Thanks for the reply!

Can you tell me of some of the schools which will let you "catch up"? I'll start sending off e-mails about it. Or perhaps spending a year as a ugrad at a state school would be a good option just taking physics courses?
 
One of the math professors I know got into a math Ph. D. program in Berkeley after getting a BSc and a MSc in Physics from her home country (Russia), now she's a professor at UCLA, doing research in pure mathematics.

So I guess it's possible.
 
I only know for sure my university will consider it; I'm sure others will as well, you'll just need to ask them. I'll send you a private message.
 
Thanks all.

If anybody has more input, it would be appreciated.

I think I'm going to finish as a BS Mathematics, and then become a visiting student at a university and take the required physics classes. Expensive, but I guess in the long run...
 

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