Questions about muriatic acid and hypochlorite sodium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the safety and potential risks associated with using muriatic acid (hydrochloric acid) and sodium hypochlorite (bleach) for cleaning, particularly concerning their evaporation and effects on electronic devices and metal surfaces. Participants express concerns about chemical interactions, fume toxicity, and the impact of these substances on household items.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that muriatic acid is indeed another name for hydrochloric acid.
  • Concerns are raised about the dangers of mixing bleach with acid, as it releases toxic chlorine gas.
  • Participants emphasize that leaving bottles of these chemicals open can lead to harmful fumes that may damage both living beings and metal surfaces.
  • One participant questions whether the evaporation of these substances could lead to corrosion of electronic devices and DVDs, particularly if they were used on alternate days.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the extent of air movement in a home affecting the spread of fumes, suggesting that the impact would likely be localized to the bathroom.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the concentration of hydrochloric acid in muriatic acid, with estimates ranging from 10% to 33%, and its influence on vapor spread and potential damage.
  • Participants discuss the importance of diluting cleaning products to mitigate risks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dangers of mixing the two chemicals and the potential for harmful fumes. However, there is disagreement regarding the actual risk of damage to electronics and the extent of fume spread in a household environment, as well as uncertainty about the concentrations of the chemicals involved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying concentrations of muriatic acid and sodium hypochlorite, the influence of air movement on fume dispersion, and the lack of empirical evidence regarding damage to electronics from cleaning practices discussed.

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is muriatic acid the same as hydrochloric acid?

here in Brazil in markets it sells muriatic acid and disinfectant sodium hypochlorite active chlorine 2.5%

if someone uses these two products if they are stopped for cleaning the bathroom when the bottles are open they evaporate it travels all over the house and goes down and deposits on metal electronic boards and DVD discs, starting the corrosion and destruction of them?
 
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Muriatic acid is another name for hydrochloric acid.

It sounds like you are mixing bleach solution with acid. Do not do that. Period. It releases chlorine gas which is very toxic. It can damage you and other living things in all kinds of nasty ways.

And bottles left open are bad idea. HCl can out gas toxic fumes. I'd worry more about people and pets than computer hardware. Especially in a small room. Answer to your question: HCl fumes can damage metal surfaces.

Since all of this does not sound so great to me:

https://www.msdsonline.com/2014/09/10/hydrochloric-acid-hazards-safety-tips/
 
This is incredibly worrying. Do not mix acid with the sodium hypochlorite solution at all. Definitely do not leave any of these substances open in the air, the fumes are dangerous enough to kill you.

As for your question, yes, concentration of chloride ions speed up metal corrosion. But that's the least of your worries. Try to stay alive.edit: someone beat me to it ahh
 
I didn’t mix them, I used them separately on alternate days or the same day so my concern is whether at the time of their use their evaporation spread through the house, went down and deposited on the electronic devices and on my DVD discs, starting the corrosion of the electronics and penetrating the dvd's polycarbonate, glue and reaching the metallic inner layer
 
How long did you keep that bottle open?

I heavily doubt your house's air movement is so violent that it spread through the entire house. It probably stayed in the bathroom, and anything that diffused around the house is probably not enough to do anything from a regular cleaning session.

As far as I know this isn't a common problem in the world of cleaning, and both those substances are used regularly in the presence of electronics.

Did you do anything crazy with either of them? Use an insane amount? Why are you so concerned?
 
clean bathroom 30 minutes
 
You left the bottle open for 30 minutes? Why?

You're meant to mix it with water and then use that instead, at a lower concentration. I doubt its anything to worry about, but keep that in mind for the future.
 
I don't know the true concentration of HCL in acid muriatic some say 10% others say 33% the other product has 2.5% active chlorine I also don't know if the concentration has an influence on the vapor spreading through the house and causing the damage I mentioned

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Wait, so was damaged caused? This actually happened?

Also, most muriatic acid sold is about 20-30%. And yes, concentration has a very strong influence on vapor spreading. You should certainly dilute your cleaning products.
 
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10% hcl?? risks?
 

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