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The discussion revolves around the Dirac equation, particularly its interpretation as a single-particle wave equation, the nature of antiparticles, Lorentz transformations, and representations of the Lorentz group. Participants explore theoretical implications, mathematical formulations, and conceptual clarifications related to these topics.

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  • One participant questions whether a particle can be a linear combination of particle and antiparticle states, drawing an analogy to superpositions of spin states, and raises concerns about charge conservation.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the Dirac equation as a single-particle wave equation means there are negative energy states rather than antiparticles, indicating a divergence in interpretation.
  • A participant asks if a Lorentz transformation can change a particle into its antiparticle, prompting a response that such transformations do not alter energy signs.
  • Discussion includes the nature of representations of the Lorentz group, with one participant noting that the commonly used representations are related to the Clifford algebra for Dirac matrices, not directly to the Lorentz group itself.
  • Another participant inquires about the group structure related to the Lorentz algebra, suggesting a connection to SL(2,C) as the covering group of the restricted Lorentz group.
  • Mathematical details regarding the structure of SL(2,C) and its relation to the Lorentz group are discussed, including the implications of the metric signature on the representations.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the Dirac equation, particularly regarding the existence of antiparticles and the implications of Lorentz transformations. There is no consensus on these interpretations, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

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Limitations include unresolved assumptions about the nature of negative energy states, the implications of charge conservation in superpositions, and the specific mathematical properties of the representations discussed. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of these topics.

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I must admit that I have never had a great familiarity with the Dirac equation. No matter how many times I study it, I get bogged down in the algebra and never seem to get a good understanding of it. So here's a few questions in my mind at the moment. I am referring here to the Dirac equation as a single particle wave equation (not as a field equation).

1) We have that there are 4 internal states of a spin 1/2 particle, 2 of which correspond to particle with two possible spin orientations, and 2 of which correspond to its antiparticle with 2 possible spin orientations. Does that mean we can have a particle which is a linear combination of particle+antiparticle states? This in my mind would be analogous to a particle which is a linear combination of spin up and spin down for example. If not, then why not? But if so, what is the physical meaning of an particle in a superposition of, for example, electron+positron states? By charge conservation, it seems this should be forbidden. But then again when we first learned QM, we found immediately that strict Energy conservation appears to be broken for linear combinations of different energy states, but that the expectation value of energy is conserved. Is there some analogous "the expectation value of charge is conserved" statement here?

2) Can we transform a particle into its antiparticle via a Lorentz transformation? In my mind, this would be analogous to transforming a spin up along z particle to a spin up along x particle by rotating my x-axis into the z axis. If not, then why not?

3) Since the Lorentz boosts cannot be represented by unitary group of transformations, to construct a probability current and density which remains normalized under a Lorentz boost, we cannot use ##u^\dagger \gamma^\mu u## but instead we use ##\overline{u}\gamma^\mu u## where ##\bar{u}=u^\dagger\gamma^0##. Is this basically modifying the metric on our space from the usual metric to a modified metric where I have to multiply by a gamma matrix in the middle of all inner products? This would seem to, in turn, change our correspondences of kets to bras. The physical state which is dual to ##u## is now ##\overline{u}## and not ##u^\dagger##?
 
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If you want to understand the Dirac equation as a single-particle wave equation, then there is no antiparticle; instead, there are negative energy states of the particle. Superposing states of different energy presents no problem, as usual in quantum mechanics.

If you want to understand the negative-energy states as "really" being antiparticles, then you must abandon the interpretation of the Dirac equation as a single-particle wave equation.
 
So what about question 2 and 3 then? Can we give a single particle a negative energy simply by making a Lorentz transformation?
 
No. An orthochronous Lorentz transformation (that is, one that does not involve time reversal) does not change the sign of the energy.
 
Thanks for the help. I have another question about the Dirac equation.

Deriving the Dirac equation, one finds that there are equivalent representations of the spinors and transformation matrices corresponding to the Lorentz group. The most commonly used ones are the chiral representation, and the standard representation, which are related by a similarity transformation with a unitary matrix.

I don't know very much about representation theory, but there's at least one other representation of the Lorentz group using 4x4 matrices that I know of, namely, the regular Lorentz transformations on 4-vectors in space-time. Why is this representation not used?
 
Matterwave said:
The most commonly used ones are the chiral representation, and the standard representation, which are related by a similarity transformation with a unitary matrix.

These are not representations of the Lorentz group per say. What you're referring to are representations of the Clifford algebra for the Dirac (gamma) matrices ##\{\gamma^{\mu}, \gamma^{\nu}\} = 2g^{\mu\nu}## from which we can define a representation of the Lorentz algebra by ##S^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{4}[\gamma^{\mu},\gamma^{\nu}]## which can be easily checked. Now a representation of the Lorentz algebra has to act on some field. The field ##\psi^{\alpha}(x)## that this representation acts on is the Dirac field (here ##\alpha## is a spinor index) i.e. ##\psi^{\alpha} \rightarrow S^{\alpha}_{\beta}\psi^{\beta}(\Lambda^{-1}x)##; here ##\Lambda## is a 4-vector representation of the Lorentz group.

Matterwave said:
Why is this representation not used?

The Dirac fields do not transform under ##\Lambda## they transform under ##S## as defined above; in other words these representations act on different fields (the latter on Dirac fields and the former on vector fields). ##S## and ##\Lambda## are fundamentally different representations. For example ##S## takes ##\psi^{\alpha} \rightarrow -\psi^{\alpha}## under a full rotation whereas ##\Lambda## as usual takes ##A^{\mu} \rightarrow A^{\mu}## under a full rotation (here ##\mu## is a Lorentz index).

As an aside, the 4-vector representation (1/2,1/2) can be built from the spinorial representations (1/2,0) and (0,1/2) of the Lorentz algebra as can the 4-tensor representations and so the spinorial representation is the most fundamental so it's not that it isn't used at all (the photon field transforms under the 4-vector representation) but rather that it applies to vector fields, not spinor fields.
 
Hmmm, thanks for your answer. I believe you mean that the field transforms as ##\psi^\alpha\rightarrow \exp(i\omega_{\mu\nu}S^{\mu\nu})^\alpha_\beta\psi^\beta(\Lambda^{-1}x)## right? So it seems that representations of the Lorentz algebra using the gamma matrices does not, in fact, exponentiate into the Lorentz group itself...but the simply connected group with the same Lorentz algebra right? Which group is that? I know, for example, for SO(3) that the simply connected group with the same Lie algebra is SU(2), but I don't know what's the case for O(1,3)...su(2)xsu(2)? (That would be my guess)
 
Matterwave said:
I believe you mean that the field transforms as ##\psi^\alpha\rightarrow \exp(i\omega_{\mu\nu}S^{\mu\nu})^\alpha_\beta\psi^\beta(\Lambda^{-1}x)## right?

Well that's for an arbitrary rotation angle; when I said "full rotation" above I meant a rotation by ##2\pi##.

Matterwave said:
Which group is that?

##SL(2,C)##
 
Ok thanks! :D
 
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It can't be \mbox{SU}(2)\times\mbox{SU}(2), because this one is compact, while the restricted Lorentz group (\mbox{SO}_{\uparrow}(1,3)) isn't.
 
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Matterwave said:
...but the simply connected group with the same Lorentz algebra right? Which group is that? I know, for example, for SO(3) that the simply connected group with the same Lie algebra is SU(2), but I don't know what's the case for O(1,3)...su(2)xsu(2)? (That would be my guess)
The covering group of the restricted Lorentz group SO(3,1) is SL(2,C).
 
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A basis for sl(2,C) is the \sigma^{\mu}= (1, \vec{\sigma}) so a general element of sl(2,C)can be written as:
A= x_{0} \sigma_{0} + \vec{x} \vec{\sigma} \in SL(2,C)
In matrix form:

A=
x_{0}+x_{3} , x_{1}-ix_{2}
x_{1}+ix_{2}, x_{0}-x_{3}

From which you can take from detA=1:
(x_{0}+x_{3}) (x_{0}-x_{3} ) - (x_{1}-ix_{2})(x_{1}+ix_{2}) = 1
or that:
x_{0}^{2}-x_{3}^{2} - x_{1}^{2}- x_{2}^{2} = 1
and here you have that strange "sphere" thing, which gives you the SO(3,1) due to the different signs of the metric...
 

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