Quick question about significant figures

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The discussion revolves around the application of significant figures in a chemistry problem involving the combustion of ethanol. Participants explore how to determine the correct number of significant figures in the context of a calculation based on given data, including the enthalpy of combustion and molecular weight.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the mass of ethanol needed to supply 1000 kJ of heat and arrives at 33.68 g, questioning the number of significant figures due to the use of 1000 kJ in the calculation.
  • Another participant suggests that there is an implicit decimal point in 1000, which implies it has four significant figures.
  • A participant raises a question about when it is appropriate to assume an implicit decimal point, using 430 kJ as an example to inquire about its significant figures.
  • Another participant argues that in the absence of contrary information, one should assume the number of significant figures corresponds to the digits presented, but acknowledges that larger numbers may not always reflect all digits as significant.
  • One participant recommends using scientific notation (1.000×10^3) to avoid confusion regarding significant figures.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the figure 1000 kJ is an exact number in the context of the problem, implying it has infinite significant figures, contrasting with a scenario where it is a measured value.
  • A suggestion is made to review the rules of significant figures to clarify the confusion surrounding the calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of significant figures related to the number 1000 kJ, with no consensus reached on whether it should be considered as having one or four significant figures. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the assumptions about significant figures in various contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the ambiguity surrounding the treatment of whole numbers and significant figures, particularly in the absence of explicit decimal points. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of significant figures based on the context of the numbers presented.

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Homework Statement


What mass of ethanol, C2H5OH(l), must be burned to supply 1000 kJ of heat? The standard enthalpy of combustion of ethanol at 298 K is -1368 kJ⋅mol-1, and its molecular weight is 46.07 g⋅mol-1 .

I know how to solve this, but I'm unsure about the number of significant figures.

Homework Equations


Solved using dimensional analysis

The Attempt at a Solution


1000 kJ * (1 mol/1368kJ) * (46.07g/1mol) = 33.68 g.

So apparently 4 significant figures is correct, but I don't understand why. Shouldn't be 1 significant figure because 1000 was used in the calculation? My teacher takes off points for incorrect number of significant figures and I would've reported the answer as 30 g in this case. And I did check to make sure that 1000 wasn't followed by a decimal point (1000.)
 
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Even though there was no explicit decimal point, it is assume that there is an implicit decimal point. Otherwise it could have been 1001 or 999
 
phinds said:
Even though there was no explicit decimal point, it is assume that there is an implicit decimal point. Otherwise it could have been 1001 or 999
How do you know when you can assume there is a decimal point? Whenever a whole number is followed by a zero? So if it asked for 430 kJ instead of 1000 kJ, would I now use 3 significant figures?
 
Would you assume that 433 is 3 significant digits? If so, why would you NOT assume that 430 is 3 significant digits? In the absence of any information to the contrary, I think it is normal to assume that the given figure is good to the number of digits given. You DO have to be reasonable about that though. I would NOT assume that, say, 1,320,000 is 7 significant digits. There I would likely figure on 3.
 
It would be better - and less confusing - to use 1.000×103 notation. But I would go with 1000 meaning 4 sigfigs too.
 
In the statement of the problem, the figure 1000 kJ is not a measurement, but an exact number, so it (technically) has an infinite number of significant figures. If the problem had said, "when burning ethanol you measure 1000 kJ of heat to be evolved. Calculate the mass of ethanol," then I would agree that writing 1000 kJ implies only one significant figure, but the problem statement makes clear that 1000 kJ was not experimentally determined and therefore has no uncertainty.
 
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I might suggest reviewing the rules of determining significant figures in scientific calculations and applying them to the calculation results in your problem.
 

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