Radiocarbon Dating: Determining Sample Age of 41000-Yrs

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to radiocarbon dating, specifically determining the percentage of original carbon-12 atoms remaining in a sample that is approximately 41,000 years old. Participants are exploring the implications of the mathematical model used in the calculations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the formula (N1/No)=e^-λt and share their calculations, questioning the accuracy of their results. There is an exploration of potential errors in the calculations and the interpretation of the results, particularly regarding the conversion of a fraction to a percentage.

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Some participants have identified discrepancies in their calculations and are seeking clarification on the correct interpretation of results. There is an ongoing examination of how to properly express the remaining percentage of carbon-12 atoms, with various interpretations being discussed.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the type of assistance they can receive. There is a focus on ensuring that the mathematical reasoning aligns with the principles of radiocarbon dating.

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Homework Statement


The practical limit to ages that can be determined by radiocarbon dating is about 41000-yr-old sample, what percentage of the original 6 12 C atoms remains?

Homework Equations


(N1/No)=e^-λt

The Attempt at a Solution


Variables:
t = 41,000 yrs
T1/2 of Carbon = 5730 yrs
ln2 = .693

I basically plugged in the numbers and solved because you are given all the variables.
(N1/No)=e^-λt
(N1/No) = e^-(ln2/T1/2)t
(N1/No) = e^-(.693/5730 yrs)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -(.693/5730 yrs)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -(1.2094E-4)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -4.95863
(N1/No) = e^(-4.95863)
(N1/No) = .0102548​

I then calculated for the % because the answer .012548 is a fraction.
.0102548/100 %
=1.025%​

However that answer is incorrect and I'm not exactly sure why. I made sure that I was using the (ln)-function instead of the (log)-function. I don't know if it is my math or if I'm putting it into the website incorrectly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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blue_lilly said:

Homework Statement


The practical limit to ages that can be determined by radiocarbon dating is about 41000-yr-old sample, what percentage of the original 6 12 C atoms remains?

Homework Equations


(N1/No)=e^-λt

The Attempt at a Solution


Variables:
t = 41,000 yrs
T1/2 of Carbon = 5730 yrs
ln2 = .693

I basically plugged in the numbers and solved because you are given all the variables.
(N1/No)=e^-λt
(N1/No) = e^-(ln2/T1/2)t
(N1/No) = e^-(.693/5730 yrs)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -(.693/5730 yrs)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -(1.2094E-4)(41,000 yrs)
ln(N1/No) = -4.95863
(N1/No) = e^(-4.95863)
(N1/No) = .0102548​

I then calculated for the % because the answer .012548 is a fraction.
.0102548/100 %
=1.025%​

However that answer is incorrect and I'm not exactly sure why. I made sure that I was using the (ln)-function instead of the (log)-function. I don't know if it is my math or if I'm putting it into the website incorrectly.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I get that e(-4.95863) ≈ 0.00702 .
 
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SammyS said:
I get that e(-4.95863) ≈ 0.00702 .

You are correct, I must have copied it down wrong.

So then, I would take .00702 and divide by 100 to get the Percentage.

.00702/100 = 7.0225E-5%

This is correct, right?
 
blue_lilly said:
You are correct, I must have copied it down wrong.

So then, I would take .00702 and divide by 100 to get the Percentage.

.00702/100 = 7.0225E-5%

This is correct, right?

Isn't 1/10 equal to 10 % ?

You don't get that by dividing by 100 .
 
SammyS said:
Isn't 1/10 equal to 10 % ?

You don't get that by dividing by 100 .

Where are you getting the 10% from?

I was dividing by 100 because initially you start out with 100% of the material. Or am I incorrect with that idea?
 
blue_lilly said:
Where are you getting the 10% from?

I was dividing by 100 because initially you start out with 100% of the material. Or am I incorrect with that idea?
SammyS was illustrating that diving by 100 does not give the percentage.
What is 0.1 as a percentage? How is it calculated?
 

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