Rail guns for launching projectiles to space

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of using rail gun technology, based on electromagnetic propulsion, for launching projectiles into outer space. Participants explore theoretical applications, potential societal benefits, and the challenges associated with such technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the potential of rail gun technology for space launches and its societal benefits.
  • One participant suggests that a maglev train operates on similar principles to rail guns, highlighting societal benefits and discussing the need for long rail guns to manage acceleration safely for human passengers.
  • Another participant emphasizes air resistance as a significant challenge, noting that projectiles would face high speeds in dense air, unlike rockets that accelerate gradually.
  • A different viewpoint raises concerns about the financial investment required to develop large-scale rail guns, referencing historical examples of failed projects.
  • One participant clarifies that maglev and rail guns are distinct technologies, mentioning current limitations in achieving the necessary speeds for space launch and the high power requirements of rail guns.
  • Concerns are raised about the durability of rail gun systems, with some noting that they may only be effective for a limited number of shots before requiring maintenance or replacement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and practicality of rail guns for space launches, with no consensus reached on the technology's viability or potential applications. Disagreements exist regarding the comparison between rail guns and maglev systems, as well as the challenges posed by air resistance and financial investment.

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Participants highlight various assumptions, including the need for long rail guns to manage acceleration and the current limitations in speed and durability of rail gun technology. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the practical implementation of rail guns for launching projectiles into space.

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What can you say about using the rail gun technology, which works under the principle of electromagnetic propulsion, in sending projectiles to outer space? Is it possible in the mere future? How can it help our soceity?
 
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Isn't a maglev train essentially using a rail gun propulsion system? In that case, the benefit to society is evident.

I think that one of the limiting factors in sending projectiles into space (with people on board to control the projectile) with a rail gun is the length of the rail gun required to ensure that the acceleration generated is not too high at any moment to do phsyical damage. ie, you need to accelerate people at about the same rate as a rocket would up to escape velocity, which would require a pretty long rail gun. I think there have been concepts drawn up to use systems like this. It would probably be benenificial if used in combination with current techniques. Say, use a rail accelerator up to a certain point whereafter rockets take over. The benefit being that you need less fuel in your rockets less weight in your entire system.
 
The main problem is air resistance.
Escape velocity is >11km/s or about Mach 30. A conventional rocket leaves the pad at low speed and accelerates as it gains altitude, so it travels at minimum speed in the thickest air and higher speed as the air becomes thinner.
A projectile has it's highest speed as it leaves the barrel - in the thickest air.
 
Main problem is, you can't find anyone to put up the huge capital investment required to build one of your giant satellite-launching guns.

So then you shop around and finally end up building your giant gun for some Middle-Eastern dictator, and before you know what's happening, you've been assassinated by an intelligence agency.

True story of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull" . Read up about it.
 
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First off, maglev and railguns are most certainly not the same thing. They both involve magnetic fields, but that is about the end of the similarity.

I don't think anyone has reached the 11 km/s range with a rail gun yet, for any projectiles at all. For some very tiny projectiles, they have gotten up to about 7 km/s, but for anything bigger than a bb, the max is about 4 km/s. So,... as a launcher, it has a ways to go. And the power requirements are HUGE!

They also tend to burn up rails really fast, so that they are only good for a few shots (<20). It is a fascinating technology, but it has a ways to go before it is useful for very much other than knocking holes in armor plate.
 

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