Rainman Revisited (rapid mental math)

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The discussion centers around the portrayal of rapid mental calculations by autistic savants in the movie Rainman, specifically the ability to compute square roots and perform other mathematical operations quickly and accurately. Participants explore the realism of such abilities, share examples of real-life savants, and discuss various methods of mental calculation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the accuracy of the movie's depiction of savants performing calculations to eight decimal places, noting a lack of video evidence for such rapid calculations.
  • Another participant suggests that while savants can perform calculations quickly, they typically achieve 5 to 6 digits rapidly, and that 10 digits would be surprising.
  • A participant references a real-life savant, Daniel Tammet, who advocates for research into the cognitive abilities of individuals like him, although they express a desire for video evidence of specific calculations.
  • Methods such as the Trachtenberg system and chisanbop are mentioned as techniques that enable ordinary people to perform large calculations quickly, indicating that speed math can be taught.
  • There is a repeated request for video evidence of autistic individuals performing specific mathematical operations, such as taking square roots or multiplying four-digit numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the realism of the calculations depicted in Rainman, with some suggesting that the movie may not accurately represent the capabilities of savants. There is no consensus on the extent of rapid calculation abilities among savants or the availability of video evidence supporting such claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in available evidence and the variability of savant abilities, as well as the potential influence of training methods on calculation speed.

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In the movie Rainman the autistic savant played by Dustin Hoffman performs a calculation of the square root of 2130 . In less than a second he gives the answer 46.15192304.
Do savants really do this at this speed to 8 decimal places? I was looking thru the internet to see video evidence of speedy calculations by savants , but couldn't find any.
 
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They can get 5 to 6 digits very fast. Usually the problems ask for integers and roots where the last integer doesn't need calculations, for a total of 7 digits in the answer, this does not work here. 10 digits would surprise me.
Movies don't have to be very realistic.
 
I saw the Daniel Trammet video where he talks about synesthesia, but I did not see him do any calculations. I am looking for a video of an autistic person taking a square root of a 4 digit number or multiplying two four digit numbers.
 
Thecla said:
I saw the Daniel Trammet video where he talks about synesthesia, but I did not see him do any calculations. I am looking for a video of an autistic person taking a square root of a 4 digit number or multiplying two four digit numbers.

Have you seen this one?

It's 45 minutes long and I haven't watched the whole thing, so I don't know if it has what you are looking for.

-Dave K
 
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