Random vectors & random matrices

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of expected values concerning random vectors and random matrices, specifically focusing on the theorem E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y). Participants explore whether this theorem applies to random matrices, the treatment of constant matrices as special cases, and the nature of random variables.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether X and Y can be random matrices of any dimension or if they must be random vectors.
  • Another participant confirms that the quantities can indeed be random vectors or random matrices.
  • A participant proposes that if A is a constant matrix, the theorem can still be applied, suggesting E(X+A) = E(X) + A.
  • There is a discussion about treating a constant matrix as a special case of a random matrix, with one participant affirming that it can be viewed as having all probability concentrated on that constant.
  • Another participant reiterates the applicability of the theorem to random matrices, seeking confirmation on whether the property holds in that context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the theorem can apply to both random vectors and random matrices, but there is some uncertainty regarding the treatment of constant matrices and whether they can be considered as random variables.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the implications of treating constant matrices as random matrices, nor does it clarify the conditions under which the theorem holds for different types of random quantities.

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1) Theorem: E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y)
where X and Y are random (matrices? vectors?).

The source didn't specify the nature of X and Y. Can X and Y be random matrices of any dimension (provided X+Y is defined, of course), or must X and Y be random vectors?


2) Let A be a constant matrix (i.e. all elements are fixed (nonrandom)). Can we now use the E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y) with Y=A to show that
E(X+A) = E(X)+E(A) = E(X)+A ?
My main question here is: can we treat A as a special case of a RANDOM matrix even though A is not random, and use the above theorem which requires both X and Y be random?
A similar question: if X constantly takes on the value 5, a lot of times we will say that X is nonrandom, but can X here be treated as a random variable?


Thanks!
 
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1) Yes, the quantities can be random vectors or random vectors.

2) Yes, one of the two vectors (matrices) can be a constant vector (matrix). The notation seems different, but this is the same basic principle used when working with random variables. If you want to think of a scalar, vector, or matrix, that is a constant in terms of probability, think of it as one that has all probability concentrated on that constant.
 
statdad said:
1) Yes, the quantities can be random vectors or random vectors.

E(X+Y)=E(X)+E(Y)
If X and Y are random matrices, does the above property still hold?

Thank you!
 
Yes, it does.
 

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