Rapid Formation of the Moon: Insights from Theia Impact

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the rapid formation of the Moon following the Theia impact, exploring the timeline and mechanisms of lunar formation. Participants reference various sources, including articles and simulations, to understand the implications of the giant impact hypothesis and the conditions necessary for the Moon's formation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the claim that the Moon formed in less than a year, suggesting that such a rapid assembly seems unlikely based on their understanding.
  • Others reference a Wikipedia article that proposes the Moon could have formed in less than a month, indicating variability in the proposed timelines for lunar formation.
  • A participant shares a simulation showing how moonlets in low Earth orbit could collide and grow, suggesting that rapid accretion is possible under certain conditions.
  • Another participant raises a question about why larger bodies do not form from Kuiper Belt or Oort cloud objects, implying that these regions are less conducive to accretion compared to the early solar system.
  • Discussion includes the energetic aftermath hypothesis, which suggests that the proto-lunar disc may have existed for about a century, while also acknowledging that accretion rates could have been high during the formation of the solar system's planets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the timeline for the Moon's formation, with no consensus reached on whether it could have occurred in less than a year or even a month. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the mechanisms that inhibit larger body formation in the Kuiper Belt and Oort cloud.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of definitive statements in the sources they reference, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the timelines and processes involved in lunar formation and accretion in the outer solar system.

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From what I've seen on shows like how the universe works and the Wikipedia article on Theia, they are saying that the moon was formed in less than a year after the impact.
My question is, how did that happen so quickly?

I am simply a fan of watching shows like that or reading articles about space. I have no degree or schooling related to this field, but I do find it quite fascinating!

Thank you in advance.
 
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There are other plausible explanations for the existence of our Moon, but this idea of collision of protoplanets does fit well with what evidence exists, (Moon rocks largely)
I took a look at the wiki article and nothing is stated there about how long the Moon took to form following such a collision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theia_(planet)
My intuition agrees with yours though, that less than a year for the debris to assemble into what now is our Moon seems unlikely.
 
Ok. I was reading this article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis#Theia

This one actually says it could have formed in less than a month!

However, I first heard this in an episode of how the universe works. In that episode, they state that it could have formed in less than a year.
 
Unfortunately that page won't load on my phone, so I will have to check it out when I have a chance to dust off and boot up the old laptop. Thank you though!

I have another question regarding accretion and gravity now that I'm thinking about it. Not sure if I should start a new thread though.

What prevents items from either the Kuiper Belt or the Oort cloud from forming larger bodies? The shows make it sound like these structures are leftovers from the formation of our planetary bodies and are doomed to be alone.
 
The same paper also discusses the energetic aftermath hypothesis where the proto-lunar disc would have endured for about a century. It is, however, true that accretion can progress fairly rapidly. We know, for example, the planets of the solar system are approximately the same age as the sun. It is safe to assume the accretion rate had to be pretty high to assemble some of the larger planets in such a short time frame. KB and Oort cloud objects are very widely dispersed so gravitational accretion would be strongly inhibited. The abundance of matter within the planetary orbits was obviously much greater facilitating more efficient gravitational accretion.
 

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