Rate of EM emission based on surface characteristics

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The discussion centers on the relationship between surface characteristics and electromagnetic (EM) emission rates, particularly focusing on black painted surfaces and their emissivity. Dark matte surfaces are recognized as better emitters of EM radiation due to higher emissivity, but this is primarily relevant to their behavior in the visible spectrum. The conversation also touches on the importance of temperature differences and how they affect emission rates, referencing the need for differential heating to maintain a temperature difference. The participants debate whether the temperature difference between a black surface and an aluminum plate is significant enough to outweigh the emissivity differences, invoking Stefan-Boltzmann's law for analysis. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the complexities of thermal radiation and the factors influencing EM emission rates.
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Given a scenario where there is a black painted surface at a temperature of 15 degrees Celsius and a polished aluminum plate at 20 degrees Celsius, could you determine which of these objects experiences a higher rate of emission of electromagnetic radiation per unit area?
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I would think the black painted surface is
 
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druscilla said:
I would think the black painted surface is
And, why do you think that ?
 
Since dark matt surfaces are better emitters of em radiation because of higher emissivity
 
You are correct but the fact that it is black to your eye speaks only to its emissivity/absorbance behavior for radiation in the visible spectrum. What is the peak black body emission for ~300K?
Also how are these objects being heated? They will not maintain a temperature difference unless differentially heated.
 
druscilla said:
Since dark matt surfaces are better emitters of em radiation because of higher emissivity
Right, but the aluminium plate is hotter. So the question is, is the temperature difference enough to overcome the emissivity difference? How will you assess that?
hutchphd said:
Also how are these objects being heated? They will not maintain a temperature difference unless differentially heated.
I think we are supposed to assume those temperatures are maintained somehow.
 
No other variables were stated in the question, so now I think the Al plate must be the answer given Stephan-Boltzmann's law
 
druscilla said:
No other variables were stated in the question, so now I think the Al plate must be the answer given Stephan-Boltzmann's law
I see no reason to jump to the opposite conclusion.
If the emissivities were the same, what would the power ratio be?
What emissivity ratio would balance that?
 
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