Ratio test giving convergence, classmate got divergence

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Homework Statement



See attached image. (it should say "ratio" not "ration")

Homework Equations



Ratio series test: An+1/An

The Attempt at a Solution



I have worked this problem over and over and continue to get the same solution. Some guy worked it on the board a couple of days ago and got something different, which our teacher said was right.

I cannot reproduce this and I wonder if the student got it wrong and the professor just didn't check it very well. Either that or I'm losing my mind. There is a test tonight and the problem is from a review Monday.

The answer I continue to get is: 1/2n^2+2n = 1/∞ = 0<1 so it converges.

The other student got: 2n+1/n+1 = 2>1 diverges.

I can post a picture of my work if needed. If I really do have the incorrect answer, can someone please post an image of their work so that I can see what's going on?

Thank you
 
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Dobie said:

Homework Statement



See attached image. (it should say "ratio" not "ration")

Homework Equations



Ratio series test: A(n+1)/An

The Attempt at a Solution



I have worked this problem over and over and continue to get the same solution. Some guy worked it on the board a couple of days ago and got something different, which our teacher said was right.

I cannot reproduce this and I wonder if the student got it wrong and the professor just didn't check it very well. Either that or I'm losing my mind. There is a test tonight and the problem is from a review Monday.

The answer I continue to get is: 1/(2n^2+2n) = 1/∞ = 0<1 so it converges.

The other student got: (2n+1)/(n+1) = 2>1 diverges.

I can post a picture of my work if needed. If I really do have the incorrect answer, can someone please post an image of their work so that I can see what's going on?

Thank you

Your answer is incorrect. And the way you are sloppy with parentheses, it's no surprise. Post your work if you want us to help you.
 
Well thanks for the advice on using parentheses. I do not believe the formula should have them as you have in your correction, though.

Ratio test limit: L = lim (n to infinity) |a_(n+1) / a_n| = lim |e^(n+1) / (n+1) divided by e^n / n| = e > 1.


Was the other student's answer correct? Did you solve the problem or just assume I missed it based on my sloppy use of (or lack thereof) parentheses?

My work:

Handwritten ratio test on lined paper: the series sum of (2n)! over 2^n (n!)^2, the limit of a_(n+1) over a_n as n goes to infinity, simplified step by step to 1/(2n^2+2n), which equals 0, less than 1, so it converges by the ratio test.


Edit: went back and did not distribute the 2.
 
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Dobie said:
Well thanks for the advice on using parentheses. I do not believe the formula should have them as you have in your correction, though.

Limit ratio test calculation: L equals the limit as n approaches infinity of the absolute value of a_(n+1) over a_n, equal to the limit of the absolute value of e^(n+1)/(n+1) over e^n/n, equal to e, which is greater than 1.


Was the other student's answer correct?

Yes.

It's hard to follow what you did but I think you have calculated$$
(2(n+1))! = (2n+2)n!$$which isn't correct.
 
LCKurtz said:
Yes.

It's hard to follow what you did but I think you have calculated$$
(2(n+1))! = (2n+2)n!$$which isn't correct.

Even if I do not distribute the 2 (I pulled the 2 back out toward the end), I am still left with 1/∞. Thanks for illustrating the correct way to solve the problem, though!
 
##(2(n+1))!=(2n+2)(2n+1)((2n)!)##
 
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xiavatar said:
##(2(n+1))!=(2n+2)(2n+1)((2n)!)##

Thank you so much for this explanation. I did not know it expanded like that in this case, but I've reworked it and it comes out perfectly.
 
Just note that for next time that (a(n+1))!=(an+a)!=(an+a)(an+a-1)(an+a-2)...(2)(1). Always remember to carry out the operation in the parentheses before you do the operations outside of the parentheses. I'm guessing that's why you factored out a 2. You cannot fact out the 2 like that when your doing a factorial.

Examples.
(2*3)!=(6)!=6*5*4*3*2*1.
(4*3)!=(12)!=12*11*10*...*3*2*1
 
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