Rational Varieties: Finding Birational Maps & Inverses

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The discussion centers on the challenge of demonstrating that certain affine algebraic varieties are rational, specifically through the identification of birational maps and their inverses. The scope includes theoretical exploration and technical reasoning related to algebraic geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks methods for finding birational maps for specific examples, such as the curves and surfaces defined by equations like x^2 + y^2 = 1.
  • Another participant mentions standard tricks for finding birational maps, particularly noting that projection from a point of multiplicity n-1 can define a generically one-to-one map to a coordinate space, but raises concerns about the necessity of characteristic zero for birationality.
  • A further contribution suggests that conditions on algebraic closure may also be relevant to the discussion.
  • A participant reflects on learning some techniques related to projecting lines from geometric shapes, indicating an increased awareness of the complexity of such problems.
  • Another participant references historical knowledge regarding cubic hypersurfaces and the longstanding question of the existence of degree one maps, noting that it was eventually proven that no such map exists.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and techniques related to the problem, with no clear consensus on the methods or conditions necessary for proving rationality of varieties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approaches and the implications of various conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of proving varieties are rational and the potential dependencies on characteristics of the field and algebraic closure, but do not resolve these issues.

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I am trying to show that some given simple affine algebraic varieties are rational (i.e. birationally equivalent to some A^k).

Are there any tricks or even nice algorithms for finding the birational maps and their inverses? Examples are the curve x^2 + y^2 = 1 and the surface x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 1?

I have tried to tackle the first one by assuming that the map from A^1 to the curve takes the form of a pair of quotients of linear polynomials, and then try to work out suitable coeffiecients of these polynomials but it gets very messy very quickly and offers no insight into making the thing invertible.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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there are standard tricks for examples including the ones you name.

e.g. if a hypersurface (e.g. a plane curve or surface in space) of degree n has a point of multiplicity n-1, then projection from that point defines a generically one to one map to a coordinate space.

but I think you need characteristic zero to conclude the map is birational. maybe not.

in general it is very hard to prove varieties are rational.
 
You might also need some condition on algebraic closure as well.
 
Yes the field is assumed to be closed, sorry. I have now learned of some tricks for the above cases which involve a generalisation of projecting a line from a real circle/sphere to another point on the circle/plane to an algebraically closed field.

If anything I now have a feel for how hard this type of problem is in general which I suppose is a good lesson learned.

I may have some more algebraic geometry questions to follow soon!
 
e.g. it was known for decades that a cubic hypersurface in P^4 is the image of P^3 under a map of degree 2, but whether there is a map of degree one was unknown for deacades more. finally it was proved there can be no such degree one map.
 

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