Reactions of NH3 & CuSO4 + H2SO4 & Cu(NH3)4+2

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The discussion revolves around the chemical reactions involving ammonia (NH3) with copper sulfate (CuSO4) and sulfuric acid (H2SO4) with the copper-ammonia complex (Cu(NH3)4^2+). Participants explore the nature of these reactions, including potential products and the underlying chemistry involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests treating ammonia as a Group 1 metal for a single replacement reaction with CuSO4, but expresses uncertainty about the outcome.
  • Another participant agrees with the first approach and proposes a double replacement reaction for the second scenario involving H2SO4 and Cu(NH3)4^2+.
  • Several participants challenge the initial claims, questioning the pH of ammonia solution, the solubility of copper hydroxide, the behavior of ammonia in strong acids, and the characteristics of ammonia copper complexes.
  • There is a suggestion that the problem may be more complex than a simple balancing exercise, indicating a need for deeper understanding of the reactions involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views on how to approach the reactions and differing opinions on the underlying chemistry.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering the pH of ammonia solutions and the solubility of copper compounds, which may affect the reactions. There is also an indication that assumptions about the reactions may need to be revisited based on the complexity of the chemistry involved.

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Homework Statement



What is produced when NH3 is mixed with CuSO4(aq)?

What is produced when H2SO4(aq) is mixed with Cu(NH3)4+2?

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For the first one, I'm thinking I should treat ammonia as a Group 1 metal and do a single replacement, but I'm not sure how this would work out.

For the second one, I have no clue how to start. Would the hydrogen pair up with the copper?

Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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For the first you are right.
Same of the second you treat SO4 and NH3 group 1 and do a double replacement

This is b/c they are polyatomic ions
 
Wrong.

What is pH of ammonia solution?

What do you know of copper hydroxide solubility?

What do you know about ammonia copper complex?

What happens to ammonia in the solution of strong acids?

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Borek said:
Wrong.

What is pH of ammonia solution?

What do you know of copper hydroxide solubility?

What do you know about ammonia copper complex?

What happens to ammonia in the solution of strong acids?

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see when I looked at it, it just seemed to be a balancing sort of problem, like you get in grade school, just to teach you how to do it. Usually you ignore those sort of things for those problems.

But if it is more advanced then you should def look at what he said
 

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