Real part of this complex quantity

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The discussion revolves around extracting the real part of a complex quantity related to a dispersive wave packet. Participants explore mathematical approaches to manipulate complex expressions and analyze the properties of the wave packet, including its dispersion characteristics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a dispersive wave packet and seeks help in extracting the real part of a complex expression involving the wave packet.
  • Another participant suggests breaking down the exponential into real and imaginary parts to combine them appropriately for the real part of the product.
  • A different participant proposes forming the probability density from the wave packet and indicates that it may reveal dispersion characteristics.
  • Another participant introduces a problem involving finding a complex number whose square equals a given complex quantity, providing a system of equations to solve for the real and imaginary components.

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Participants present various methods and approaches to tackle the problem, but there is no consensus on a single method or solution. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best way to extract the real part of the complex quantity.

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Participants' approaches depend on specific mathematical manipulations and assumptions about the properties of complex numbers and wave packets. Some steps in the reasoning may be unresolved or require further clarification.

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Hi everyone,

I have a dispersive wave packet of the form:
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{D^2 + 2i \frac{ct}{k_0}}} e^{-y^2/(D^2+2i\frac{ct}{k_0})}##
The textbook says that the enlargement of the package, on the y direction, is:
##L=\frac{1}{D}\sqrt{D^4+4\left(\frac{ct}{k_0}\right)^2} ##
However I have some problems extracting the real part; I write:
##\frac{1}{\sqrt{D^2 + 2i \frac{ct}{k_0}}} = \frac{\sqrt{D^2 - 2i \frac{ct}{k_0}}}{\sqrt{D^4+4\left(\frac{ct}{k_0}\right)^2}}##
And I use the fact that:
##\Re{\sqrt{a+bi}}=\sqrt{\frac{a \pm \sqrt{a^2 + b^2}}{2}} ##
But I can't find the correct expression.

Do you have any suggestion?

Thank you very much
 
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I don't know what you've tried. However the exponential has to be broken down into real and imaginary parts. Then combine the real parts to get one term of the real part of the product and combine the imaginary parts to get the other term.
 
Try letting u(y)= the wave packet
Form the probability density abs(u^2) = u u*
You should be able to read the dispersion characteristics from there
 
If I understand your problem is something like : find ##\delta \in \mathbb{Z}## such that ##\delta^2 = z##, ##z\in \mathbb{Z}##

Assume ##\delta = x + iy ## and ## z = X + i Y = \frac{D^2 \frac{ct}{k_0}}{D^4+4\left(\frac{ct}{k_0}\right)^2} + i \frac{ -2 \frac{ct}{k_0}}{D^4+4\left(\frac{ct}{k_0}\right)^2}##.

You must solve the system of equation:

## X = x^2 - y^2 ##
## Y = 2xy ##
## \sqrt{ X^2 + Y^2 } = x^2 + y^2##
 

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