Real Symmetric Endomorphism: Diagonalizability and Eigenvalues Explained

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The discussion revolves around the properties of real symmetric endomorphisms, specifically focusing on their diagonalizability and the nature of their eigenvalues within the context of linear algebra.

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  • Participants explore the implications of symmetry in endomorphisms and the conditions under which eigenvalues are real. Questions arise regarding the definitions and properties of inner products and their role in establishing the reality of eigenvalues.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing reasoning related to the properties of symmetric endomorphisms and others questioning specific aspects of the arguments presented. There is an active exploration of the definitions involved, particularly concerning inner products.

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Participants are discussing the implications of definitions related to inner products and the properties of eigenvalues in the context of real vector spaces. There is a noted emphasis on the requirement for clarity in mathematical expressions and notation.

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Hi,

We know that if u is a real symetric endomorphism, then u has a real eigenvalue and that u is diagonalizable.
But can we say that u is diagonalizable with only real eigenvalues?
 
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Yes. Since you are talking about eigenvalues, I take it that u is an endomorphism on some vector space (a linear transformation from vector space V to itself). Specifically, if u is symmetric and \lambda is an eigenvalue, then there exist non-zero x such that ux= \lambda x. Further, we can take x to have magnitude 1: <x, x>= 1. Then \lambda= \lambda&lt;x, x&gt;= &lt;\lambda x, x&gt;= &lt;ux, x&gt;= &lt;x, ux&gt; (because u is symmetric). &lt;x , ux&gt;= \overline{&lt;ux, x&gt;}= \overline{\lambda x, x}= \overline{\lambda}\overline{&lt;x, x&gt;}= \overline{\lambda}.
(The overline indicates complex conjugation.)

Since \lambda= \overline{\lambda}, \lambda is real. That is all eigenvalues are real for a symmetric endomorphism.
 
I think you forgot an overline in the end, but I can't understand why we have:
<x,ux>=conjugate(<ux,x>) ?
 
penguin007 said:
I think you forgot an overline in the end, but I can't understand why we have:
<x,ux>=conjugate(<ux,x>) ?
One of the requirements in the definition of "inner product" is that &lt;u, v&gt;= \overline{&lt;v, u&gt;}. Of course, if the vector space is over the real numbers, that is the same as "<u, v>= <v, u>" but then your question is trivial.
 

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