Rearranging Equations for Centripetal Force and Mass of Orbiting Objects

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The discussion revolves around rearranging the equation GM/r² = v²/r to isolate M, in the context of centripetal force and the mass of a planet that a space probe is orbiting. The original poster expresses difficulty with rearranging equations and seeks assistance in understanding the process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the steps involved in rearranging equations, questioning the operations of multiplication and division. The original poster reflects on their understanding of these operations and attempts to manipulate the equation to isolate M.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on the rearrangement process. The original poster has made progress in their understanding and is encouraged to leave the equation symbolic for clarity.

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The original poster mentions needing the equation for coursework, indicating a specific application for their inquiry. There is an emphasis on understanding the basic operations involved in rearranging equations.

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i fail miserably at rearranging equations. how would i rearrange GM/r^2 = v^2/r to make M the subject?
this is to do with centripetal force, and the mass of a planet a space probe is orbiting
after working out the answer to v^2/r (which is 1.35ms^-2) I am left with GM/r^2 = 1.35ms^-2 i wasnt sure if it would be M = 1.35G/r^2...

as i said, i am terrible at rearrangements. any help would be appreciated
 
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Sharr-zeor said:
i fail miserably at rearranging equations. how would i rearrange GM/r^2 = v^2/r to make M the subject?



this is to do with centripetal force, and the mass of a planet a space probe is orbiting



after working out the answer to v^2/r (which is 1.35ms^-2) I am left with GM/r^2 = 1.35ms^-2 i wasnt sure if it would be M = 1.35G/r^2...

as i said, i am terrible at rearrangements. any help would be appreciated

Well, per the PF rules (see the link at the top of the page), we can't just give you the answer.

So, what steps do you normally use to re-arrange equations? If you multiply both sides by the same thing, does the equality still hold? Divide both sides by the same thing? Multiply one side by 1? (using something like 1=x/x)
 
berkeman said:
Well, per the PF rules (see the link at the top of the page), we can't just give you the answer.

well i only need the equation to work out the answer to my coursework question. I've taken the steps to find the necessary equation, i just can't rearrange it.

i didntunderstand the second part of your reply.
i don't know if I am multiplying or dividing anything

oooh, if i multiply 1.35 by r^2 i get GM?
therefore 1.35r^2/G = M ?

if this is right I am going to kick myself for not thinking aboutthe multiplication/division. i always forget the simple bits...
 
Sharr-zeor said:
well i only need the equation to work out the answer to my coursework question. I've taken the steps to find the necessary equation, i just can't rearrange it.

i didntunderstand the second part of your reply.
i don't know if I am multiplying or dividing anything

oooh, if i multiply 1.35 by r^2 i get GM?
therefore 1.35r^2/G = M ?

if this is right I am going to kick myself for not thinking aboutthe multiplication/division. i always forget the simple bits...

It's hard for me to check your work -- where did the 1.35 come from? It would be easier for us to check your work if you just left the equation symbollic until the end.

So if you start with GM/r^2 = v^2/r

and leave it symbollic, what do you get for M = ?
 
leaving it symbolic i get (v^2 / r) r^2 / G = M ?

would that work out as v^2 r / G = M

v [squared] r [divided by] G [equals] M
 
Sharr-zeor said:
leaving it symbolic i get (v^2 / r) r^2 / G = M ?

would that work out as v^2 r / G = M

v [squared] r [divided by] G [equals] M

Good job!
 
so v^2 r / G = M?

it seems so simple now >.<

thanks for the help, i guess i need to just go through it step by step instead of rushing to an answer :)
 

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