Reason for Gram's Law about Zeta Zeros

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The discussion revolves around Gram's Law as it pertains to the Zeta function, specifically exploring why the Zeta function exhibits this tendency and the distinction between "good" and "bad" Gram points. The conversation includes theoretical aspects of the Zeta function and its properties along the critical line.

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  • Some participants suggest that Gram's law can be interpreted as the real part of the Zeta function, ##\Re(\zeta(\frac{1}{2}+it))##, tending to be positive, and that ##Z(t)## may be positively correlated with ##\cos\theta(t)##.
  • It is noted that Gram's law applies when ##\zeta(\frac{1}{2}+it)## is real, but some argue it appears to hold elsewhere on the critical line as well.
  • One participant mentions that the integral of ##\cos\theta(t)\cdot Z(t)## over a range is positive and large, while the integral of ##\sin\theta(t)\cdot Z(t)## may be relatively small and can vary in sign.
  • A formula related to the sum of products of Gram points is presented, suggesting a connection to the behavior of the Zeta function.
  • There is a query regarding the meaning of "W" in a formula, which is identified as the Lambert W function, with an explanation of its relevance to the approximation of ##\theta(t)## for large ##t##.

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Participants express various interpretations of Gram's law and its implications, with no clear consensus on the underlying reasons or the significance of the "good" and "bad" Gram points. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of these observations.

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Some limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of Gram points and the assumptions made about the behavior of the Zeta function along the critical line. The mathematical steps leading to the proposed formulas are not fully resolved.

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I suppose you could phrase Gram's law as the statement that ##\Re(\zeta(\frac{1}{2}+it))## tends to be positive, or that ##Z(t)## is somehow positively correlated with ##\cos\theta(t)##. Although Gram's law only applies when ##\zeta(\frac{1}{2}+it)## is real, it seems to hold elsewhere on the critical line as well. The plot of ##\Re(\zeta(\frac{1}{2}+it))## is mostly positive, whereas the imaginary part appears to fluctuate rapidly:

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In particular, ##\int_0^T\cos\theta(t)\cdot Z(t)\,dt## is positive and large, while ##\int_0^T\sin\theta(t)\cdot Z(t)\,dt## is relatively small and might be positive or negative.

Actually, apparently there is a formula ##\sum_{n\leq N} Z(g_{n-1})Z(g_n) \sim -2(\gamma + 1)N##, which I found a few pages into this paper. I plotted the autocorrelation function of ##Z(g_n)## (integrating from 0 to 100,000) using the approximate formula ##g_n=2\pi e^{1+W(\frac{8n+1}{8e})}##:

Normalized plot of ##f(\tau)=\int_0^{10^5} Z(g(t))Z(g(t+\tau))\,dt##:
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I don't really have a full understanding of what I'm doing, but this is all very intriguing to me.
 
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Thank you.. I'm reading now on a mobile device but I'll probably get back later with a question or two.
 
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I plotted the autocorrelation function of ##Z(g_n)## (integrating from 0 to 100,000) using the approximate formula ##g_n=2\pi e^{1+W(\frac{8n+1}{8e})}##:
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What is the "W" in this formula?
 
Swamp Thing said:
What is the "W" in this formula?
That's the Lambert W function. Nothing special, it's just there since ##\theta(t)\sim \frac{t}{2}\log\frac{t}{2\pi}## for ##t## large, and so its inverse function can be approximated using W.
 

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