Recoil Velocity: Solving Numerical Problems in Momentum and Energy

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The discussion revolves around a numerical problem related to momentum and energy, specifically focusing on recoil velocity in the context of a bullet and a gun. Participants are examining the relationships between the masses and velocities involved in the scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the correct assignments for the masses and velocities in the momentum equation. There is uncertainty about the role of the gun's mass and how it relates to the recoil velocity. Some participants are questioning the number of velocities involved and their definitions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the setup of the problem. Some guidance has been offered on interpreting the velocities and the application of Newton's Third Law, although there is no explicit consensus on the final approach or calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a specific numerical problem and are filling out a table based on different bullet and gun combinations, which may introduce variability in the parameters being discussed.

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Homework Statement


http://hypertextbook.com/physics/mechanics/momentum-energy/problems.shtml

It's numerical #1, filling out the table, the part I am stuck on is recoil velocity. I have figured out the bullet momentum and bullet energy, however.


Homework Equations


(m1+m2)v=m1v1'+m2v2'


The Attempt at a Solution


The part that I don't understand is what is m2? M1 would be the mass of the bullet, but is the mass of the gun suppose to be m2?
 
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Woopy said:
... is the mass of the gun suppose to be m2?
Most likely.
 
there's 3 different velocities, and I don't see how there can be. V is recoil velocity what I am solving for, v1 would be the muzzle velocity, and v2 as the velocity of the gun (0 m/s?)
 
You have your velocity assignments backwards. Treat this like an "inverse inelastic collision". That means that you begin with the two objects combined (like you have in your equation). So, if v is the velocity of the combined object (bullet inside gun before it is fired), then what do you think should be v? Hint: it isn't recoil.
 
(.0097kg + 4.4kg)(0 m/s) = (.0097kg)(890m/s)+ (4.4kg)(v2') ?

-4.4kg(v2') = 8.633 kgm/s
v2' = -1.96 m/s (since its a recoil, it'd go backwards so negative.
 
Woopy said:
there's 3 different velocities, and I don't see how there can be. V is recoil velocity what I am solving for, v1 would be the muzzle velocity, and v2 as the velocity of the gun (0 m/s?)

Your table has three different bullets fired from 3 different guns with different barrel lengths and total masses.

Filling out the table is really observing Newton's Third Law of Action/Reaction for each bullet/gun combination.

Whatever momentum the bullet leaves the gun with will be equal to the momentum of the gun in the opposite direction.

MVbullet = - MVgun
 
I didn't check your numerical calculation this time, but your approach looks good.
 

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