Velocity from spring pushing on 2 masses

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the dynamics of two masses being propelled by a spring. The participants are examining the conversion of potential energy stored in the spring into kinetic energy of the masses, as well as the application of conservation of momentum principles.

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  • Participants are exploring the relationship between kinetic energy and momentum, attempting to derive equations that relate the velocities of the two masses. There is uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of these equations and the assumptions being made.

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Some participants are questioning the validity of the equations presented in earlier posts and are suggesting a reset to clarify the conservation of energy and momentum principles. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or solution.

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Participants are grappling with the correct application of energy conservation and momentum conservation in the context of the problem. There is mention of an expected answer, but the specific values and parameters are not fully clarified, leading to confusion in the calculations.

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Ep=1/2kx^2, W=Ek
So i know Ek=123.48 from the potential energy that converts into kinetic energy (Ep=1/2kx^2).

Now by conservation of momentum, m1v1=m2v2

So m2Sqrt(2Ek/(m1+m2))=m1v1

This is where I am making a mistake I think, but not sure how.

Answer is suppose to be 4.44
 

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So I tried something else

Ek=Ek1+Ek2

2Ek-m1/m2 * v1^2=v2^2

And substitute this into m1v1^2=m2v2^2, but this didn't give the right answer either.
 
Not sure how you arrive at some of the equations in post #1 and #2, but let's just reset:
Using conservation of energy (potential energy of spring=sum of kinetic energies) gives you one equation. I don't see this equation in post #1, I see some other equation which doesn't look right.
Using conservation of momentum you get the other equation ##m_1v_1=m_2v_2## which is correct from your post #1.

SO , you will have two equations with two unknowns the velocities of the two bodies ##v_1,v_2##.
 
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JoeyBob said:
So m2Sqrt(2Ek/(m1+m2))=m1v1
I read that as ##v_1=\frac{m_2}{m_1}\sqrt{\frac{kx^2}{m_1+m_2}}##.
But that's not what I get. Please post your working.
 
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