Reduction in gas concentration of water with solutes

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of gas concentration reduction in water due to the addition of solutes, particularly focusing on ionic solutes like sodium chloride (NaCl) and their impact on the solubility of non-polar gases such as oxygen (O2). It is established that ionic solutes enhance the "structuring" of water, which decreases the effective volume available for hydrophobic solutes to dissolve. The role of phenol, a solute that can dissolve in water through hydrogen bonding but is primarily non-polar, is questioned regarding its ability to induce similar effects. The conversation highlights that larger solutes are generally less likely to be "structure-making" compared to smaller ionic solutes.

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When salt (polar) is added to water (polar) it makes the water more polar and causes the oxygen (non-polar) to be "driven" from solution. So I'm assuming this is an electrostatic repulsion(?).

Aside from salt what other solutes would cause this to happen? Would a solute have to have very polar molecules? In particular would phenol, which can dissolve in water due to hydrogen bonding, but is mostly non-polar cause this 'degassing' effect?

Any feedback on the above would be very much appreciated.
 
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The origin of salting out phenomena is still a subject of active debate and study, so I don't think there is any definitive answer to your question, although theories, both serious and pop science, abound. The bottom line appears, so far, to be that certain ionic solutes cause an enhanced "structuring" of the water and the solubility of hydrophobic solutes (like O2) may be decreased for no more complicated reason than that the effective volume of water in which they can dissolve is reduced. What's important to your question, therefore, is whether phenol is a more "structure-making" solute than, say, NaCl. It probably isn't: generally larger solutes appear to be less likely to be "structure making."
 
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Christopher Grayce said:
The origin of salting out phenomena is still a subject of active debate and study, so I don't think there is any definitive answer to your question, although theories, both serious and pop science, abound. The bottom line appears, so far, to be that certain ionic solutes cause an enhanced "structuring" of the water and the solubility of hydrophobic solutes (like O2) may be decreased for no more complicated reason than that the effective volume of water in which they can dissolve is reduced. What's important to your question, therefore, is whether phenol is a more "structure-making" solute than, say, NaCl. It probably isn't: generally larger solutes appear to be less likely to be "structure making."

Many thanks for the reply that's extremely helpful. I'll see if I can find some papers on salting out, however the ones I've seen don't really talk about a reduction in gas concentration. Could you perhaps explain the "structuring" aspect a little more?
 
rwooduk said:
Could you perhaps explain the "structuring" aspect a little more?

Google solvation, solvation shell - molecules involved in solvation are no longer part of the bulk solvent..
 
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Borek said:
Google solvation, solvation shell - molecules involved in solvation are no longer part of the bulk solvent..

Excellent, will do. Thanks again.
 

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