Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the reduction of esters and amides using lithium aluminum hydride (LiAlH4) and related topics such as protecting groups and alternative reducing agents. Participants explore the potential outcomes of reducing both functional groups and the feasibility of selectively targeting one over the other.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant inquires whether LiAlH4 will reduce both an ester and an amide in a molecule or just one of them.
- Some participants suggest that both reductions are possible, but do not clarify under what conditions this occurs.
- There is a question about the meaning of APTS in the context of esterification, with a participant providing its French name and formula.
- Another participant raises a question about the use of protecting groups for amides and whether methods like ethylene glycol or the Corey-Seebach reaction can be applied to selectively protect one group while reducing the other.
- Concerns are expressed regarding the effectiveness of protecting groups for amides, with one participant stating that they have not seen the Corey-Seebach reaction applied to esters or amides.
- It is mentioned that lithium borohydride in methanol is reactive towards esters but less so towards secondary amides.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of various methods for selectively reducing esters and amides, and multiple competing views remain regarding the use of protecting groups and reducing agents.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the reactivity of different functional groups and the effectiveness of various protecting strategies, which remain unresolved in the discussion.