Reference Letters for Co-op/Internship | 3rd Year Engineering Student

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The discussion revolves around the inclusion of reference letters in applications for co-op or internship positions by a 3rd year electrical engineering student. Participants explore whether to attach reference letters with the resume and cover letter or to present them during an interview.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that reference letters should not be included with the resume, advocating for a concise resume format.
  • Others argue that it may be more appropriate to provide reference letters during an interview rather than at the initial application stage.
  • A few participants mention that including a note stating "references available upon request" is unnecessary and takes up valuable space on the resume.
  • One participant points out that having references available can be seen as a formality and may provide reassurance to employers.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of including educational qualifications, such as a high school diploma, for someone applying for an internship without a degree.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that including references directly on the resume is not advisable, but there is disagreement on whether to mention "references available upon request." Some see it as redundant, while others believe it serves a purpose.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing views on the importance of reference letters based on the type of employer and the context of the application. The discussion reflects varying opinions on resume formatting and the significance of references in the hiring process.

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Hi, I am currently a 3rd year electrical engineering student and I will looking for 12-16 month co-op/internship following the completion of this year.

I have received some reference letters from my professors and just wanted to know, is it advisable to include one or two along with my resume and cover letter? Or would it be better to pass them along to the recruiter/hiring manager at the time of the interview?

Thanks
 
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Scothoward,

I'm not sure how important reference letters are unless the employer wants them.

My manager at IBM told me to not even put References are available upon request because its taking up space and its assumed if we want references, you'll give them to us.

(after I was hired he showed us how to write a good resume)

The rule of thumb is to never make the resume more than 1 page, I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to include them or not, I guess it all depends on what company you are going for and how they treat things like that.

I think if you can get a face to face interview with him, you should give him your recommendation letters then, not at the career fair though.
 
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Yeah, keep the resume short and sweet.

I wouldn't hand out reference letters left and right either. Only to employers that show interest.
 
I agree with the others: don't include references, but just add on the bottom of your CV "references available on request" or something like that. Then you can provide them if and when you are asked.
 
cristo said:
I agree with the others: don't include references, but just add on the bottom of your CV "references available on request" or something like that. Then you can provide them if and when you are asked.

But coffee has a good point to not put "references available upon request".

That's like say you got a high school diploma on your resume. They already know you got one. They also know that references are (SHOULD) available upon request. It's a waste of precious space.
 
JasonRox said:
That's like say you got a high school diploma on your resume. They already know you got one.
But the OP is applying for an internship without actually having a degree, so the only official qualifications he has is his high school diploma, which should clearly be put on a resume!
They also know that references are (SHOULD) available upon request. It's a waste of precious space.
I always put references available upon request, since it shows I have thought in advance and have referees! Why implicitly imply something when you could tell them!
 
I've never heard of someone not getting an interview because they had "Reference are available upon request". I see no harm in actually putting it at the very bottom. Sure, they probably assume that they are available, but it's more of a formality than anything else. Just like cover letters and thank you notes!
 
no harm in putting that at the bottom. It is kind of reassuring for an employer, that someone is willing to stick up for you.
 

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