Refund on that last 2 minutes of my life?

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The discussion revolves around a BBC news story that participants find humorous yet troubling, particularly regarding the actions of a group identified as Orthodox Jews. The conversation touches on themes of public relations, cultural practices, and the appropriateness of criticism related to religious behaviors, with a focus on the response to a pandemic threat.

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  • Some participants express disbelief at the actions described in the news story, questioning the public relations implications for the Orthodox Jewish community.
  • There are repeated mentions of the duration of the event, with some participants noting it as either two minutes or 38 seconds, indicating confusion or disagreement about the specifics.
  • One participant criticizes the behavior of the individuals involved, suggesting it reflects poorly on the community as a whole, while another emphasizes the importance of respecting all beliefs, regardless of personal opinions on their validity.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for ridicule and its impact on community relations, with a call for mutual respect among differing belief systems.
  • Some participants reflect on their roles in moderating discussions about sensitive topics, indicating a struggle between personal beliefs and community standards.
  • There is a mention of the thread's appropriateness within the forum, with some questioning why it has not been moderated more strictly.

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Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the absurdity of the situation while others emphasize the need for respect towards religious beliefs. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing perspectives on the appropriateness of criticism and the implications of the actions described.

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Participants acknowledge the sensitivity of discussing religious practices and the potential for offense, highlighting the complexity of navigating such discussions in a diverse community.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8196807.stm

You just can't make this kind of nuttiness up. You just can't...it's funny and sad at the same time.

put it on mute, and play your favorite music in the background. They all nod to the beat!
 
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Sigh... where can I go to get a refund on that last 2 minutes of my life?
 


That's scary. If it weren't a BBC story, I'd figure it was made up. How in the world can those Orthodox Jews think this is good PR for them? Idiots.
 


Pengwuino said:
Sigh... where can I go to get a refund on that last 2 minutes of my life?

I thought it was 38 seconds!

berkeman said:
That's scary. If it weren't a BBC story, I'd figure it was made up. How in the world can those Orthodox Jews think this is good PR for them? Idiots.

with all the respect to your view, you don’t have to add that last part of your post
 


drizzle said:
I thought it was 38 seconds!

My laptop is quite slow. Also, it was THAT bad.
 


drizzle said:
I thought it was 38 seconds!



with all the respect to your view, you don’t have to add that last part of your post

Drizzle, I think it is not an unreasonable thing to criticize people for being such cretins that they think playing a very silly horn will do anything about a virus.
 


berkeman said:
That's scary. If it weren't a BBC story, I'd figure it was made up. How in the world can those Orthodox Jews think this is good PR for them? Idiots.

Who knows, maybe they didn't see the camera and forgot to turn off the stupid.

I thought babies crying on airplanes was annoying, at least they don't have access to horned instruments on flights.:-p
 


drizzle said:
with all the respect to your view, you don’t have to add that last part of your post

You make a valid point, and I'm so torn. I mean, I've warned and infractionated posters for insulting others here on the PF, and for making bad remarks about ethnic groups or other groups that folks have no control over being a part of.

But, I just have to be honest here. As an EMT, and as a disaster worker involved in the H1N1 outbreak, to see such adults behaving like brainwashed children is astounding to me. And even worse, if they respond to a pandemic threat this way, that casts a dark cloud for me over anything Orthodox Jews have to say about anything else.

I'd better stop for tonight. I had no idea. This is depressing. Maybe I need to go back to some old threads and reverse some infractions...
 


berkeman said:
You make a valid point, and I'm so torn. I mean, I've warned and infractionated posters for insulting others here on the PF, and for making bad remarks about ethnic groups or other groups that folks have no control over being a part of.

But, I just have to be honest here. As an EMT, and as a disaster worker involved in the H1N1 outbreak, to see such adults behaving like brainwashed children is astounding to me. And even worse, if they respond to a pandemic threat this way, that casts a dark cloud for me over anything Orthodox Jews have to say about anything else.

I'd better stop for tonight. I had no idea. This is depressing. Maybe I need to go back to some old threads and reverse some infractions...

:smile: You had better avoid any religious studies. You may never come out of your house again.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
:smile: You had better avoid any religious studies. You may never come out of your house again.

Count on it!
 
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kldickson said:
Drizzle, I think it is not an unreasonable thing to criticize people for being such cretins that they think playing a very silly horn will do anything about a virus.

you just took the word out of my mouth, did I say something different! besides I don’t care, just got to mention it
 
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Having seen what won't pass on PF, it amazes me that this thread passes. What's up?
 
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jimmysnyder said:
Having seen what won't pass on PF, it amazes me that this thread passes. What's up?

It doesn't. This is discussion of a specific religion.
 
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berkeman said:
Count on it!

This is what I see as the critical issue: If we are to live in peace as a global community, we have to learn to respect all peaceful beliefs. Something like 90% of the people in the world have religious beliefs; traditions like this will not disappear any time soon no matter how silly they may seem to a non-believer or people of other faiths. We cannot expect to live together in peace if any given 10% [be it atheists or people of a particular belief] of the population ridicules the other 90%; or if 90% gangs up on any given 10%.

Also keep in mind [not talking to you specifically Berke] that while religious beliefs may insult some people's intelligence, insulting someone's religious beliefs can be a deeply personal offense. Unless a person has been religious, it is impossible to understand the difference - the two situations are orders of magnitude apart in significance to the individual.
 
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I locked the thread. Please address all hate mail to me. Thanks! :)
 

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