Relationship Between Expansion and Curvature in the Universe

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the expansion of a spatially flat universe and the curvature of its spacetime. Participants explore whether the expansion is a manifestation of curvature and how this relates to the energy content of the universe and Einstein's field equations.

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  • Some participants question if the expansion or contraction of a spatially flat universe is a manifestation of the curvature of its spacetime.
  • It is noted that the behavior of the scale factor is dependent on the energy content of the universe, which interacts with geometry through Einstein’s field equations, leading to the Friedmann equations.
  • Another participant emphasizes that curvature is described by a rank 4 tensor rather than a single number, and while it can be simplified for homogeneous and isotropic spatial slices, this is not universally applicable.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between expansion and curvature, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of curvature in relation to expansion, including the dependence on energy content and the mathematical representation of curvature, which may not be fully addressed.

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Is expansion a manifestation of curvature?
Orodruin said in another thread that "the spacetime of a spatially flat universe generally has curvature".

Is the expansion (or contraction) of a spatially flat universe the manifestation of the curvature of its spacetime?

If so, does the expansion correspond to a positive or negative curvature?
 
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The behaviour of the scale factor is dependent on the energy content of the universe, which couples to the geometry through Einstein’s field equations. This contains the curvature through the appearance of the Einstein tensor. This is what results in the Friedmann equations.
 
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Also note that curvature in general is described by a rank 4 tensor and not a single number. In the case of the homogeneous and isotropic spatial slices, the information can be boiled down to a single curvature invariant, but this is not generally the case.

Jaime Rudas said:
Orodruin said in another thread that "the spacetime of a spatially flat universe generally has curvature".
Also, please use the mention feature if you refer to other users. Preceed the user name by an @ like this: @Jaime Rudas
In cases such as this you may also consider using the quote feature, where you can add quotes from several threads and then insert them into your post.
 
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Orodruin said:
using the quote feature, where you can add quotes from several threads and then insert them into your post.

Wow, finally after all these years I know what it's for 😆 Thanks.
 
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