Undergrad Relativistic Bohmian trajectories of photons via weak measurements

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The discussion centers on a paper exploring relativistic Bohmian trajectories of photons through weak measurements, challenging the notion that Bohmian mechanics is incompatible with special relativity. The authors propose a method to construct relativistic Bohmian-type velocity fields, applying this to photons in a Michelson–Sagnac interferometer. Their approach allows for measurable trajectories that adhere to quantum continuity and relativistic velocity rules. A modified Alcubierre metric is suggested to explain these trajectories within general relativity. The conversation also briefly touches on the nuances of language and interpretation regarding the validity of Bohmian mechanics.
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I found out about this interesting paper through a Tweet by Steven Thomson.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.05169
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31608-6
Relativistic Bohmian trajectories of photons via weak measurements
Joshua Foo, Estelle Asmodelle, Austin P. Lund, Timothy C. Ralph
Bohmian mechanics is a nonlocal hidden-variable interpretation of quantum theory which predicts that particles follow deterministic trajectories in spacetime. Historically, the study of Bohmian trajectories has mainly been restricted to nonrelativistic regimes due to the widely held belief that the theory is incompatible with special relativity. Here, we present an approach for constructing the relativistic Bohmian-type velocity field of single particles. The advantage of our proposal is that it is operational in nature, grounded in weak measurements of the particle’s momentum and energy. We apply our weak measurement formalism to obtain the relativistic spacetime trajectories of photons in a Michelson–Sagnac interferometer. The trajectories satisfy quantum-mechanical continuity and the relativistic velocity addition rule. We propose a modified Alcubierre metric which could give rise to these trajectories within the paradigm of general relativity.
 
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Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even if Bohmian interpretation is wrong. :smile:
 
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Demystifier said:
Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even if Bohmian interpretation is wrong. :smile:
What do you mean by "if"?
 
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martinbn said:
What do you mean by "if"?
I mean "though some people may think that". :-p
 
Demystifier said:
I mean "though some people may think that". :-p
What I meant was that you misspelled "if". In your first post it should be spelled "though".
 
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martinbn said:
What I meant was that you misspelled "if". In your first post it should be spelled "though".
That's a difference between American and British spelling.
 
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Demystifier said:
That's a difference between American and British spelling.
It's not a spelling difference.

"Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even if the Bohmian interpretation is wrong." means BM may be wrong.

"Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even though the Bohmian interpretation is wrong." means BM is wrong.
 
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atyy said:
It's not a spelling difference.

"Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even if the Bohmian interpretation is wrong." means BM may be wrong.

"Weak measurement makes Bohmian trajectories measurable even though the Bohmian interpretation is wrong." means BM is wrong.
Yes, that was the idea of the joke, but it didn't work.
 
martinbn said:
Yes, that was the idea of the joke, but it didn't work.
It worked, but my counter-joke didn't. :oldbiggrin:
 
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atyy said:
It's not a spelling difference.
I thought it was obvious that I was kidding.
 
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