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The problem involves a relativistic collision between two particles, one moving at a speed of (4/5)c and the other at rest. The objective is to determine the speed and mass of the combined particle after an inelastic collision.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum and energy in relativistic contexts. There are attempts to clarify the equations used for momentum and mass conservation, with some questioning the correctness of their notes and equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants confirm the correctness of the equations presented, noting that one variable is known while two remain unknown. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these equations for the final speed and mass of the combined particle.

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Participants are working under the constraints of relativistic mechanics and are considering the implications of inelastic collisions. There is a mention of potential confusion regarding notation and the interpretation of gamma factors.

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Homework Statement


A particle with mass m and speed (4/5)c collides with a particle (with mass m as well, but speed = 0) un-elastically, and continues as one particle.

I have to find the speed and mass for this "joined" particle.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, first - conservation of momentum!

1) I use that gamma_1*m*(4/5)c + 0 = gamma_2*M*v

2) I also use gamma_1*m + m = gamma_2*M

Is this correct? In the notes I took in class today, I wrote this for #1: gamma_1*m*(4/5)c + 0 = gamma_2*M - but I guess I wrote this one down wrong?

Thank for you all in advance.
 
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Niles said:

Homework Statement


A particle with mass m and speed (4/5)c collides with a particle (with mass m as well, but speed = 0) un-elastically, and continues as one particle.

I have to find the speed and mass for this "joined" particle.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, first - conservation of momentum!

1) I use that gamma_1*m*(4/5)c + 0 = gamma_2*M*v

2) I also use gamma_1*m + m = gamma_2*M

Is this correct? In the notes I took in class today, I wrote this for #1: gamma_1*m*(4/5)c + 0 = gamma_2*M - but I guess I wrote this one down wrong?

Thank for you all in advance.

Your equations 1 and 2 are correct. Note that gamma_1 is known so that leaves two unknowns: M and v.
 
Great, thanks!
 
M=2m. Then gamma2 cancels out of the equation for v,
 

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